After petrel wrote his piece about unforced turnovers killing Georgia Tech in a game against Maryland last week, we had a long discussion about what counts as "unforced". Sometimes a turnover that is recorded as a steal is in fact "unforced": it's possible that a ball could roll to a defender after the offensive player dribbles it off their foot or that the offensive player inexplicably passes the ball right to a defender. I made the argument that many of Washington State's 27 turnovers against Washington fit that definition of "unforced steals" and many of Eastern Washington's 28 turnovers in their 74-53 loss to Seattle University tonight were similar. But I also think Seattle U's full court trapping defense resulted in a number of things that would be recorded as "unforced turnovers" (travels, passes out of bounds, etc) simply by keeping EWU in a state of confusion. Given all that, you can probably also tell that the other thing these games had in common is that neither was pretty.