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Who: Indiana Fever vs. Washington Mystics

When: 7 p.m. EDT on NBA TV | WNBA LiveAccess

Where: Conseco Fieldhouse - Indianapolis, IN

What: This is the fifth and final meeting between these two teams this season, with the Fever leading the series 4-0. If Indiana beats Washington tonight, the Fever will clinch homecourt advantage throughout the Eastern Conference playoffs.

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Preview: Fever.com preview | Mystics.com preview

Playoff implications: The Fever are in the 2011 WNBA playoffs and the Mystics are decidedly out of contention, but that doesn't mean that there aren't playoff implications - there is still the possibility of a four-way tie in the Eastern Conference with a Fever loss tonight.

Links, analysis, and key stats for how the Mystics could pull this off after the jump and, as usual, feel free to leave your additional links, insights, and rooting interests in the comments.

Remember, you can follow along on your mobile device at mobile.swishappeal.com or on your iPhone using SB Nation's free iPhone app.

 

Four-way tie potential

  • If the Fever lose tonight, they'll fall to 20-12 with two games left against the New York Liberty and Atlanta Dream. So should they lose out - which isn't so far-fetched if they were to lose tonight - they'd finish 20-14.
  • With the Dream's win in that scenario, they'd also be 20-14.
  • If the Liberty also defeat the Connecticut Sun on September 11, that would leave both of them 20-14.

Add those outcomes to the current conference records - which would determine tiebreakers - and suddenly the Eastern Conference would be flipped, with the Dream as the top seed and the Fever as the fourth seed.

And their regular season meetings might suggest that the Fever want no part of the Dream as the lower seed.

So nothing against the Fever, but it's an interesting possibility to ponder, particularly if you're a Dream fan or want to add to the growing Angel McCoughtry for MVP sentiment, which would deny Fever forward Tamika Catchings the award once again in dramatic fashion.

But that's getting way ahead of ourselves - this all begins with the Mystics.

Key stat to watch:

Offensive rebounding: The blueprint for a Mystics win was pretty much laid out on July 29 at the Verizon Center when they blew an opportunity to get a win after a buzzer beater by Fever point guard Shannon Bobbitt. It should come as little surprise that they crushed the Fever on the offensive boards 18 (42.9%) to 5 (22.7%) - the Mystics are the best offensive rebounding team in the league at 33.8% and Indiana is the second-worst defensive rebounding team in the league (69.2%). Given that the Mystics are third in the league in second chance points (12.88 per game), that's a strength they'll have to rely on to win.

Of course, winning the rebounding battle has done little to guarantee wins for the Mystics, but I think it's fair to say their chances of doing so without rebounding are slim.

Key players to watch:

  • Monique Currie, F, Washington Mystics: She's a bit of an unknown because we've only seen her in two games this season but she does one thing well that the Mystics desperately need this season: create scoring opportunities. For a team that is getting outshot by opponents 44.35% to 50.12% (effective field goal percentage), that's rather significant. We'll see how much she can do today
  • Point guards on both teams:  The Fever also turned the ball over more often at the Verizon Center and that's a feat for a Mystics team that hasn't been too careful with the ball since the All-Star break. So in addition to making sure that they spread the ball around to all of their major scoring threats (e.g. Currie, Matee Ajavon, Crystal Langhorne), the Mystics guards need to take care of the ball. And game-winning shots aside, Fever ball handlers (that includes Bobbitt, Katie Douglas, and Erin Phillips) should do better than 4 assists and 7 turnovers. 

Links:

  • David Woods of the Indianapolis Star makes the case for Fever forward Tamika Catchings as MVP, using quotes from people around the league and Fever coach Lin Dunn. Dunn might be biased, but it's hard to disagree with argument. Although, somehow, people always manage to find reasons not to vote for her.
  • Steve Yanda of the Washington Post makes the case for Matee Ajavon for Most Improved Player.

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The idea of Angel McCoughtry as MVP

Over Catchings (or Charles, or Whalen, or a number of others), after the start the Dream had, or really at all, makes me vaguely sick to my stomach. I am admittedly NOT a fan of hers though. Quite the opposite.

Looking forward to a great game tonight though!

by onetimer on Sep 7, 2011 6:20 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I just can't see Washington contributing to a four way tie in the east

Indiana is way too talented, and the Mystics players’ souls have just been eaten out now for quite some time. Maybe they’ll find them today…

BUT I DOUBT IT.

by thewiz06 on Sep 7, 2011 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm hoping after the beating they took the other night

They’ll at least put up a fight tonight, make things interesting. I would HOPE so anyway – play for pride and what not, right?

by onetimer on Sep 7, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

This was the only way to make this game interesting for me.

And really, it is really sort of an amazing possibility.

So I have to get back to my WNBA roots: Go Nikki McCray Mystics!

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 7, 2011 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah it looks very unlikely

Wash look kinda hapless to me. Even when they’re beating the NY Liberty.

by JustineL on Sep 7, 2011 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've been impressed

She offers a poise and scoring ability that January didn’t quite show pre-injury.

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 7, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

She got a hell of an opportunity dropped in her lap this year when Briann January got hurt, and she’s really stepped up huge for the Fever. Very impressive.

by onetimer on Sep 7, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is it too early

To start chanting MVP for Catchings?

by JustineL on Sep 7, 2011 7:25 PM EDT reply actions  

No...never

Because if someone doesn’t shout it from the rooftops, the McCoughtry machine is going to drown out everything else.

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 7, 2011 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha.

I don’t feel that strongly about McCoughtry :), but I do agree that I find it hard to place her above the others all of a sudden.

She’s a good player though and creates a more interesting debate.

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 7, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure. She's very good.

But she’s not a tenth as good a defender as Catchings. Why is D so undervalued?

by JustineL on Sep 7, 2011 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can certainly see why she'd be in the discussion given Atlanta's comeback in the standings.

I just get so fed up watching her pout at the refs and flop around looking for foul calls. Her attitude drives me crazy. No doubt she’s crazy talented though. Wish she focused more on the basketball and less on the refs ;)

by onetimer on Sep 7, 2011 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

HAH! That's excellent.

Angel’s pout face definitely isn’t quite that good.

by onetimer on Sep 7, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno.

I don’t think of Angel’s expression as a pout, precisely—more of a slow burn that threatens to explode, ANY SECOND NOW, into a full-fledged MELTDOWN!!!

(Being an even-tempered person myself, I kind of enjoy watching Angel get all mad, since I don’t have to face her on the court.)

But I still want Catchings to be MVP because she deserves it.

by BearBint on Sep 7, 2011 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

That’s a good point – she’s not whiny. She’s trying to contain an outburst.

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 7, 2011 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

MVP!! MVP!! MVP!! MVP!! MVP!!

I’m gunna be very upset if Catch doesn’t get it this year. I mean what is she supposed to do?! Grow wings?

by JustineL on Sep 7, 2011 7:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Seconded!

It’s a crime she’s never won it. She just. does. everything. Probably my favorite current WNBA player.

by onetimer on Sep 7, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Indiana certainly don't look as good

When she’s sitting down.

Yes, she’s such a complete player. I really do think she’s the best and most consistent in the league.

by JustineL on Sep 7, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

And worse...

People acknowledge that she does everything…. and yet find reasons to advocate for others…

It really doesn’t make sense…

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 7, 2011 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know!

I saw Voepel (spelling?) respond to a question about that & she seemed to say the MVP has got to be about scoring. Which, pft. And that Catchings is okay with not being MVP. I don’t care whether Catch is okay with it. I’m not okay with it.

by JustineL on Sep 7, 2011 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure where people get the idea of MVP being about scoring from...

By that logic, LJ shouldn’t have won last year and Parker shouldn’t have won in 2008.

So top 5 is ok…but Catchings’ top 10 average isn’t enough?

That sounds arbitrary…but I didn’t see Voepel’s piece either…

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 7, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was a chat

She was asked about Catch’s chances & didn’t seem to think they were good.

by JustineL on Sep 7, 2011 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Scoring champs and MVPS

2009 – Taurasi
2007 – Jackson
2005 – Swoopes
2003 – Jackson
2000- Swoopes
1997-8 – Guess :)

That is significant…

And nobody has been below 5th.. I just find it ridiculous to use that as a standard. If scoring is so important, denying scoring opportunities is too.. so…

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 7, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've never understood that logic either

An MVP is the player most important to her team – isn’t someone who is tops in defense, top 10 in scoring, and up there in steals and rebounds, basically the definition of that? Not that scoring isn’t important, but those other things certainly are too.

by onetimer on Sep 7, 2011 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tamika Catchings dies everything better than you

She even sweats better than you.

It is right that she should be worshiped and take her place among the basketball gods. You shall bring her gifts and present her with MVP trophies.

by Shannon Cotterell on Sep 7, 2011 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

That lead evaporated for Indiana awfully fast.

Thought we had a blowout on our hands but the Mystics are hanging around, at least.

by onetimer on Sep 7, 2011 7:48 PM EDT reply actions  

I sort of tuned out too

…while looking up scoring averages for past MVPs. :)

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 7, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just looked at what I posted above basically...

Parker (2008) and LJ (2010) were both 5th in scoring.

Catchings is 10th… so.. that sort of cut off would be rather arbitrary…

But here’s the list:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WNBA_Most_Valuable_Player_Award

Even a quick glance tells you that scoring has necessarily been the determinant..

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 7, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Figured

Which we could edit our comments.

by JustineL on Sep 7, 2011 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

All of a sudden

It looks like Nate’s dream could come true. Washington are only one behind.

by JustineL on Sep 7, 2011 7:48 PM EDT reply actions  

..and you do realize that if the dream occurs...

…there’s no way people are gonna vote Catch for MVP, right?

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 7, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which is why it's not going to happen

I’m not for a four-way tie. Besides which it ain’t gunna happen. Washington can’t string four good quarters together.

by JustineL on Sep 7, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

The 4-way tie also requires the Liberty to win a few

And with Cappie playing on a bum ankle, I wouldn’t count on it. She (and the rest of the team) looked downright awful on Sunday.

by onetimer on Sep 7, 2011 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can we please not talk about that?

I’m pretending we were replaced by pod people for that game. All but PIerson . . .

by JustineL on Sep 7, 2011 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me too!

I closed my eyes and thought of England. (Which didn’t help. England’s a nasty damp place.)

by JustineL on Sep 7, 2011 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Haha

I just scowled loudly over and over at all the Maya Moore fans who invaded the Rock just to root for Maya/Minnesota and it made me feel a little better lol. Come to our building, root for our team!

by onetimer on Sep 7, 2011 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha

Maya Moore is so OVERRATED. I have a whole rant about it.

by JustineL on Sep 7, 2011 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well.. let's get you going... lol

Do you think she’s worthy of Rookie of the Year?

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 7, 2011 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think she got lucky

landing at Minnesota. They’re such a balanced & well-coached team that her mortal fear of the paint has not been an issue. But if she’d landed in Tulsa (where she should have if there were a just basketball god—-poor Lizzie) it would have been a problem.

Don’t get me wrong. She’s a talented player but she is not the second coming. And she has not come in & transformed the league. She had so much hype I was expecting her to be as good in her first year as Parker or Charles or Taurasi who lived up to their hype. (Actually Charles had very little hype. What’s up with that? She’s exceptional.)

I think she’s going to get a lot better. But she’s having the usual adjustment to the pros. Basically my gripe is with college fans who don’t get what a big transition it is to move from college hoops to the WNBA.

by JustineL on Sep 7, 2011 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Actually Charles had very little hype. What’s up with that? She’s exceptional."

Someone asked me earlier in the year: Is it fair to wonder if Charles is the better player than Moore?

My answer: yes.

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 7, 2011 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh absolutely.

No doubt in my mind about that one.

by onetimer on Sep 7, 2011 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed

But, to actually answer your question: yes, Maya’s a worthy ROY.

I wish Adams hadn’t gotten injured & that Lizzie had good coaching. I have seen her play great against the US national team! She’s very talented & for what ever reason Tulsa have not known what to do with her.

by JustineL on Sep 7, 2011 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well put.

The early ‘20s are late adolescence; I don’t expect anyone fresh out of college to waltz in and “save” a team. Moore’s very good and she’s cute, and the media always love proclaiming a coronation when some fresh young face shows up, whether it’s truly deserved or not.

(Usually not. And OMFG, think what will happen when a certain someone is ready for the W draft: “The Future of Women’s Basketball!” “Can Griner Save the WNBA?” etc.)

by BearBint on Sep 7, 2011 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not so concerned about Griner

They tend to get less hype-y for non-conventional looking players. I’m expecting big hype for Skylar Diggins.

by JustineL on Sep 7, 2011 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

OTOH

I’m in Australia during the college season so I’m pretty insulated from the hype. As in I never heard of Maya until May this year . . . cough cough

The only reason I’ve heard of Griner is cause she was being compared to Lizzie.

by JustineL on Sep 7, 2011 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

LIZZIE IS WAY MORE AWESOME THAN GRINER!!!!!!

YOU CAN TELL IT’S TRUE BECAUSE I’M USING CAPS!!!

by Shannon Cotterell on Sep 7, 2011 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YOU’RE RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lizzie is much cooler than B.G.

(And her side-shaved hair is so cute.)

by BearBint on Sep 7, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stop imposing your silly U.S. conventions ;)

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 7, 2011 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s starting to look that way though….

by James Bowman on Sep 7, 2011 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eros versus Thanatos?

Life versus death? Hedonism versus masochism?

by BearBint on Sep 7, 2011 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

lol

I’ve never thought of Mystics games as hedonism….

But comparatively, yes: at least I know what universe I’m in with this game…

Unless, of course, the Mystics win…?

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 7, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Mystics are not going to win

Ely is gunna win it for Indiana.

You really are a masochistic watching the GOP debate. I can barely read the tweets about it. Thanatos is dead right.

by JustineL on Sep 7, 2011 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

ur right

I jinxed them…. I will stop posting until this game is over

by thewiz06 on Sep 7, 2011 8:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Not MVP qualifications

Catchings dreb
Catchings lost assist
Catchings oreb, tap
Catchings fouled after getting inside position

See – she doesn’t score! :)

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 7, 2011 8:51 PM EDT reply actions  

big time ankle turn

like 90 degrees on the replay. Hope she can be healthy for the playoffs.

by ttdomi on Sep 7, 2011 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Announcer is quite disappointed to find out

that the triple double by Tina Charles that he thought he saw in person was in fact not a triple double.

by ttdomi on Sep 7, 2011 8:59 PM EDT reply actions  

The four-way tie dream is dead.

Congrats to the Fever for clinching an opportunity to lose to the Dream and make it less likely that they face one another in the first round.

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 7, 2011 9:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Now if it would only stop raining in New York,

so I can watch those people who run around with rackets. Go, Serena!

by BearBint on Sep 7, 2011 9:06 PM EDT reply actions  

OOOO

Are you going to matches? Or you mean on TV?

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 7, 2011 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're a lucky woman.

But I can’t complaint; my daughter, for unfathomable reasons, says she’s getting married next month. What if she had chosen a W finals day? I’d have to sprint out of the venue and down the street to the nearest sports bar (in an English village!). Or commandeer somebody’s laptop. Whatever my choices, she would never have forgiven me.

by BearBint on Sep 7, 2011 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

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