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Tuesday Night Preview & Stats: Sun at Dream, Silver Stars at Sparks

There are only two games tonight, but they a) have significant playoff implications, b) should be good games, and c) feature some of the league's biggest stars.

Star-divide

Who: Connecticut Sun at Atlanta Dream

When: 7:30 p.m. EDT on WNBA LiveAccess

Where: Phillips Arena - Atlanta, GA

What: The fourth and final meeting in the regular season series, which the Sun lead 2-1.

Preview: WNBA.com preview

Who: San Antonio Silver Stars at Los Angeles Sparks

When: 10:30 p.m. EDT on NBA TV | WNBA LiveAccess

Where: Staples Center - Los Angeles, CA

What: The fourth and final meeting comes in the midst of a playoff battle that could go down to the wire with a L.A. win.

Preview: SilverStars.com Gameday Preview


More links, analysis, and key stats after the jump.

Feel free to leave your additional links, insights, and rooting interests in the comments.

Remember, you can follow along on your mobile device at mobile.swishappeal.com or on your iPhone using SB Nation's free iPhone app.

 

7:30 p.m. EDT Connecticut Sun at Atlanta Dream

Both of these teams have secured playoff spots, so this is all about positioning and homecourt advantage.

Links:

Key stat to watch:

Turnovers: The Sun has been the least turnover prone team in the league in the second half of the season, while the Atlanta Dream has a defense that aims to force them. That makes a player like Sixth Woman of the Year candidate Kara Lawson pretty significant.

Key players:

  • Kara Lawson, G, Sun: Lawson's shooting could become a factor in this game, but most of all against the Dream her ball handling will be key - she has a team-high 2.69 pure point rating and the additional ball handling will help. In the Sun's one loss to the Dream, they had 21 turnovers; in their two losses, they had 14 apiece.
  • Armintie Price, G, Dream: Price has not played well against the Sun this season, going 5-for-19 from the field in three meetings. Yet among Price's biggest improvements this season has been her ball handling efficiency - she has a pure point rating of 1.74, good for third on the team. Against the Sun, she's had 7 assists to 3 turnovers in the last two games playing starter-level minutes.

10:30 p.m. EDT San Antonio Silver Stars at Los Angeles Sparks (NBA TV)

If the fourth place Silver Stars win this one, they would still have a chance at the third seed (by virtue of a tiebreaker with the Phoenix Mercury) while the Sparks will fall three games behind with only two games remaining thus extinguishing their playoff hopes.

But if San Antonio drops this one in L.A., the final week of the season will be more exciting with both teams put in a must-win position - L.A. would tie the season series 2-2, but have a tiebreaker edge for the moment due to a better conference record.

Links:

Key stat to watch:

Rebounding: As noted above, neither of these teams is particularly strong on the rebounding front, with or without Parker or Danielle Adams, respectively - they are currently 11th (L.A.) and 12th (San Antonio) in the WNBA in total rebounding percentage. So someone has to win that battle and it could be especially significant for the Silver Stars - the Sparks give up the most second chance points in the league (13.29) and have the lowest defensive rebounding percentage in the league (67%).

Players to watch:

  • Tina Thompson, F, Los Angeles Sparks: If this does come down to rebounding, the Sparks could use a boost from Thompson: she's the team's fourth best defensive rebounder (15.12%), virtually tied with forward Ebony Hoffman and rookie center Jantel Lavender. Another interesting tidbit: she's shot 46.5% from the field in 13 wins and 33.1% in 18 losses. A big game from her would be a big boost for the Sparks.
  • Danielle Adams, F, San Antonio Silver Stars: Adams has shot 6-for-26 in their last three games and is showing now how much the Silver Stars benefited from her scoring in the early season. And again, if the game comes down to rebounding, she is the second best offensive rebounder on the team by percentage (8.84%).

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Here at Philips

…waiting for the game to start.

by James Bowman on Sep 6, 2011 6:42 PM EDT reply actions  

How are Stars and Sparks both so bad at rebounding?

It hurts my brain. I guess the Stars are pretty short (relatively) once you get past Appel and Riley, and neither of those two is particularly a great leaper. (That having been said, the Lynx starting frontcourt is 6’2", and they are basically crushing the whole rest of the league on the boards) The Sparks are even more mind-boggling to me, but their whole season has been pretty dysfunctional so I guess on that level I’m not surprised.

It’d be interesting to know rebounding numbers with/without Parker & Adams since they most missed significant time, but I’m too lazy to figure it out (guess I’m not really THAT interested ;) ).

by Shannon Cotterell on Sep 6, 2011 7:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Not boxing out has definitely been a problem for the Sparks

None of L.A.’s post players outside of Parker are good rebounders, either.

by RP_45 on Sep 6, 2011 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Sparks literally miss box outs and get outjumped on far too many occasions

The Silver Stars are a bit more complex: their defensive rebounding is actually not bad – 72.1% is above average 71.5%.

Their problem is offensive rebounding due to size, as you mentioned, and their 6’2" players are not quite as rugged.

Hence, the need for Adams…

I don’t know the breakdown w & w/o Parker/Adams, but both teams stayed “consistent”…and were not good last year either.

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by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think lateral

quickness is also an important factor in rebounding. And desire.

by ttdomi on Sep 6, 2011 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

"And desire."

And with the Sparks, that seems to be the only explanation you’re left with after watching them get outrebounded over and over….

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by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Desire has been missing from the Sparks overall.

A few players seem to have it, but it hasn’t been contagious. I’ve wondered all season if the chemistry on that team is just…well…rotten, actually.

I’d really like to see SASS just put the Sparks out of their misery here.

by Shannon Cotterell on Sep 6, 2011 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's so weird..

but it explains everything, like you said: the defensive effort, offensive fluidity, rebounding…

I’ve wondered if they entered the season assuming they’d be in the playoffs or got complacent after a strong start… but you had to pin those … well…. rotten.. things on a team.

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by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Atlanta keys to the game

- help and recover on Charles
- get Connecticut to cough up the ball

by ttdomi on Sep 6, 2011 7:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Shalee Lehning with the head microphone on!

Shalee says that Connecticut is really hungry this year with a lot of weapons inside and outside.

LaChina asks if she played against Connecticut during her K-State days and asks her to give props to Connecticut which she does.

by ttdomi on Sep 6, 2011 7:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Not good for Tamika Catchings if the

Fever end up on the bottom. Of course their goose is probably cooked anyway. Atlanta is the hot team in the east now.

by ttdomi on Sep 6, 2011 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not bad at all

Chaos is always fun!

(Justine Larbalestier here. I know some of you from Twitter & finally got around to setting up an account here though I’ve been lurking for ages. Hi!)

by JustineL on Sep 6, 2011 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who's your team?

Lauren Jackson is back, and not a moment too soon!

by WaveOcean on Sep 6, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm an Aussie New Yorker

So the Liberty plus any team with an Aussie on it. Though I think the Lynx are going to be tough to beat this year. They were amazing on Sunday.

by JustineL on Sep 6, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

We’ll see.

Lauren Jackson is back, and not a moment too soon!

by WaveOcean on Sep 6, 2011 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Random:

Which teams have never had an Aussie?

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by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

ooh, good question

Not Seattle or Tulsa!

Lauren Jackson is back, and not a moment too soon!

by WaveOcean on Sep 6, 2011 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the Liberty did

have an Aussie guard for a season.

by ttdomi on Sep 6, 2011 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

Must have been before my time. I started following them seriously in 2003. Though went to my first game in 1999.

by JustineL on Sep 6, 2011 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Found it

Jessica Bibby in 2000

by ttdomi on Sep 6, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Huh

Never heard of her. hangs head in shame

by JustineL on Sep 6, 2011 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe Charlotte Sting?

Utah Jazz?
Sacramento Monarchs?

by ttdomi on Sep 6, 2011 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't Tom Maher

bring along at least one Aussie?

by ttdomi on Sep 6, 2011 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have no idea at this point.....

I didn’t really follow much of the WNBA in the ’90’s aside from watching a bit of the Sparks dynasty.

by thewiz06 on Sep 6, 2011 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's kind of incredible

How many Aussies have & do play in the wnba. We’ve only a small population & we’re not that into basketball.

by JustineL on Sep 6, 2011 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I seriously

Doubt that. Though with the low USD maybe . . .

by JustineL on Sep 6, 2011 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think they pay peanuts.

Half or more of what the WNBA pays.

There is a Cambage 2010/2011 highlight video that shows her playing a game in a gym that only looks to have about 7 rows of bleachers on each side.

by ttdomi on Sep 6, 2011 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is what I have always assumed

Most Aussie players would prefer to play at home but there’s way more money overseas.

by JustineL on Sep 6, 2011 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes it is.

I wonder how much credit goes to AIS.

by ttdomi on Sep 6, 2011 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

A tonne

If not all of it. Blessed are taxpayer funded sporting institutes!

by JustineL on Sep 6, 2011 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Since you're here...

Any preferences for who NYL draws first round?

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by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not Atlanta!!!

And not Con if they have home court which they will.

by JustineL on Sep 6, 2011 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow

Lauren Jackson is back, and not a moment too soon!

by WaveOcean on Sep 6, 2011 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

*blushes*

But I had nothing to do with it!

by JustineL on Sep 6, 2011 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

We're. Not. Worthy. ;)

Welcome, though I know you’ve been reading since before this site existed…and greatly appreciate it.

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by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Justine Larbalestier, huh?

As in, THE Justine Larbalestier?

The author of the Magic or Madness trilogy?

Lauren Jackson is back, and not a moment too soon!

by WaveOcean on Sep 6, 2011 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is the best WNBA site

And you know I’m a big fan, Nate.

by JustineL on Sep 6, 2011 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

AWESOME

Lauren Jackson is back, and not a moment too soon!

by WaveOcean on Sep 6, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Much appreciated.

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

*waves back*

Who you supporting tonight?

by JustineL on Sep 6, 2011 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm

Kind of indifferent. San Antonio I think…

by Jessica Lantz on Sep 6, 2011 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

:P

because I’m indifferent? Well, actually…the reason I think I want SA to win is so when we beat them at our last home game of the season, it won’t be knocking them out of the playoffs or anything. That should be determined before Sept. 11th please ;)

by Jessica Lantz on Sep 6, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait..

You don’t want to play spoiler?

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by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK

So maybe I do. That would also be fun. Hmm. #DecisionsDecisions

by Jessica Lantz on Sep 6, 2011 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

As long time loser...

(Warriors, Niners fan)

I actually enjoy opportunities to rain on someone’s parade.

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by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I cheered for Purdue in 1999

Simply because they would have had an undefeated season, except that they lost to Stanford. And it was like the only good ting Stanford did all season…so I wanted Purdue to win it all and have Stanford be a blemish on their otherwise perfect season forever. Immortality for Regan Fruen!

by Shannon Cotterell on Sep 6, 2011 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good points, folks!

I’ve been like that when OSU has ruined OU’s chance at the national championship. That is fun, indeed…

But which will make the Shock pick up another win, huh? LOL

by Jessica Lantz on Sep 6, 2011 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd love it.

…mainly because I thought Atl would take it from the beginning so it would bail me out. ;)

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by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Angel could teach Maya

More than somewhat about driving the lane.

by JustineL on Sep 6, 2011 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

So... so true...

The thing is, that jumper is so money… you almost watch her pull up and think it’s ok….

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by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I question

Angel’s shot selection :-) And as a Liberty fan I think she gets away with way too many charges. But I would say that.

by JustineL on Sep 6, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Izzy sighting.

And way out on the break as well.

by ttdomi on Sep 6, 2011 7:57 PM EDT reply actions  

This is the last chance to get it right

This is the last chance to make it your night

Lauren Jackson is back, and not a moment too soon!

by WaveOcean on Sep 6, 2011 7:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Great game so far

Lauren Jackson is back, and not a moment too soon!

by WaveOcean on Sep 6, 2011 8:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Halftime: 48-42 Dream

This Atl team is playing good basketball right now.

And the big thing for them: 4 first half turnovers.

“Not Atlanta” is a good choice for any eastern conference fan in the playoffs right now…

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 8:27 PM EDT reply actions  

What would their record be if they had been healthy all year?

They might be the strongest team in the league right now.

by ttdomi on Sep 6, 2011 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Setting aside my fan prejudices

I would like to see a Dream-Lynx finals.

by JustineL on Sep 6, 2011 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Grabbing the prejudices you set aside...

I’d like to see a NYL- Minn finals in theory…

In reality, I know now that Minnesota might have an eternal grudge against NY so…. ;)

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha!! I, too would adore that.

I love every Liberty player but we’ve been definitionally inconsistent this year. Totally understandable given our change of venue, resulting way lower attendance, change in management & coaching staff, loss of two centres. Frankly I’m thrilled & impressed we made the playoffs at all. Anything else would be gravy on gravy.

by JustineL on Sep 6, 2011 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me, too

But that’s cheating when I say that because those are my 2 teams.

by Shannon Cotterell on Sep 6, 2011 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's tough

Obviously, I agree they’d be good…

But the thing is, Harding got off to a terrible start and Lehning was having a down season… so even healthy, they didn’t have strong point guard play….

And two of those early games were Minnesota…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Atlanta_Dream_season

2-3 more wins?

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by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

They just showed a commercial for an Atlanta burger joint

- Checkers – that has a drive through lane on both sides of the building.

by ttdomi on Sep 6, 2011 8:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Impressive start to second half for Atl...up 52-45

Great defense on Charles right now, which is saying a lot.

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by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 8:43 PM EDT reply actions  

The Dream are entering the realm of the ridiculous...

I don’t think I’ve seen them click this well.

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by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 8:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Yup

They look great. No truly stupid shots from Angel. Can’t question a thing tonight.

by JustineL on Sep 6, 2011 9:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Sandora Irvin still hanging in the league

after being a big disappointment as a #3 pick by the Phoenix Mercury in 2003. But she still gets limited minutes.

by ttdomi on Sep 6, 2011 9:06 PM EDT reply actions  

LaChina says the crowd goes absolutely crazy

when Courtney Paris comes in the game. “They love her”.

#hotlantaisabiggirltown

by ttdomi on Sep 6, 2011 9:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Such a great pickup...

Glad to see her time finally came…and of course now I expect improvement.

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guess who sat down?

That would be Angel. But now she’s back.

by JustineL on Sep 6, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's crazy what an immediate impact she had...

…even when not taking the shot.

The whole defense was focused on her…

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by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I haven't looked up the stats

But I feel like Angel’s big improvement this year is passing more and thus taking less low percentage shots.

by JustineL on Sep 6, 2011 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I haven't looked much actually...

I think most interesting is figuring out when she really hit a rhythm and how those #s compare to last year…

Basic stats suggest nothing spectacular and I suspect that’s why?

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by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

A few quick things:

- Free throw rate WAAY up: 2010: 39.4%, 2011: 50.29%…
- True shooting percentage is thus up as well, despite not shooting as well from the floor: 2010: 50.6% to 2011: 51.07%
- …which is impressive given a 35% usg rate…

Surprising, the passing numbers are down as a whole this year (assists and turnovers) so that’s something I’d wonder about picking apart a bit…

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Atlanta plays McCoughtry, Price, Harding and Castro-Marquez together.

Their opponent had better have their good sneakers on because there is gonna be some running.

by ttdomi on Sep 6, 2011 9:16 PM EDT reply actions  

"This game has gotten physical"

“And this is the way Atlanta plays. You have got to be ready to take contact”. LaChina

by ttdomi on Sep 6, 2011 9:24 PM EDT reply actions  

IF...

IF is a powerful word. ;)

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

I don’t have McCoughtry or Charles in the top spot, but if I had to choose one I’d go with McCoughtry. Hopefully, Catchings isn’t penalized for taking smart shots and actually being an efficient scorer. Ditto for Penny Taylor when it comes to All-WNBA voting.

by RP_45 on Sep 6, 2011 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree.

I would hope that voters at least compare Charles’ fg% to other centers and think twice before denying Catchings again…

There just comes a point when if all things are equal, give it to Catch in acknowledgment of how important defense is.

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by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

And as you say...

I don’t actually see things as equal – smart shots and efficiency do matter as a 3.

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by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

It confuses me how people can routinely ignore Taylor…

I guess when you just do everything so well everything blends together… ? ;)

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by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dunno

I’m very impressed by the Lynx and they’ll have home court.

by JustineL on Sep 6, 2011 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Feel free to call me a Seattle homer..

…but I’m interested in how well Seattle can do against the Lynx with LJ…

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well...LiveAccess crapped out for me...

But that was an impressive performance…

I’m always wary of teams that rely so much on one person, but they have a defense to back them up, which is huge…

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK!

An hour till the next game. Here’s a riddle to prepare:

Will anyone get a rebound in the LA – SASS game?

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by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 9:40 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Will anyone get a rebound in the LA – SASS game?

Great Question. Depends on who shows up for either team. May be lots of “team rebounds” whatever those are.

by lkg on Sep 6, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

The ball will just bounce around...

…until it rolls to someone and doesn’t require effort…?

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Hahaha

You’re just being cruel now.

by JustineL on Sep 6, 2011 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

In seriousness...

My gut tells me SASS will win the rebounding battle.

But the thing is that the Sparks (and SASS obviously) can/have won games without rebounding if they shoot well. So it might be moot.

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Becky is an awesome rebounder!!

For her height.

Let’s go, Stars! Do it for your state which is having a seriously horrendous time right now. I love you, Tully!

Otoh it’s kind of more interesting if LA wins & that Parker kid sure can play. Also they have two Aussies.

by JustineL on Sep 6, 2011 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Otoh it’s kind of more interesting if LA wins & that Parker kid sure can play. Also they have two Aussies."

I kinda agree. I want the drama.

And for mainstream audiences, getting Parker in the playoffs is a good thing.

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

All of that is true

But I want to see Adams step up in the playoffs. She’s such a good story. And Danielle Robinson. Also the silver stars are NY Liberty east.

by JustineL on Sep 6, 2011 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oops

That would be NY Liberty west.

What? I’m a foreigner!

by JustineL on Sep 6, 2011 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I predict Brunson will bet a rebound in the LA/SA game

Because the ball will hit the ground and roll THAT FAR before anyone picks it up.

by Shannon Cotterell on Sep 6, 2011 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fine

I bet if DRob is in the game, she will speed over and pick the ball up before it rolls to Minnesota.

by Shannon Cotterell on Sep 6, 2011 10:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Not if

Armintie Price gets there first. :-)

by JustineL on Sep 6, 2011 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man, I love Brunson

Why did we pick Nicole Powell in the dispersal draft?!

Don’t get me wrong very fond of Powell but Brunson’s a beast!!!!!

by JustineL on Sep 6, 2011 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well...

You know…

In retrospect – and I really do think Blaze had this in mind – a Cappie trade would be less likely without that deal to my mind.

Taking Brunson would’ve given them a logjam inside. Taking Powell made Christon “expendable” to use in a trade for Cappie…

So, I dunno. I guess it worked out.

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmm

I guess. misses Shamika

by JustineL on Sep 6, 2011 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats the eternal question, isnt it?

But Nicole had better numbers in 09 than Brunson, and has a more diverse game. Brunson has really picked up her game playing for Reeve.

by Shannon Cotterell on Sep 6, 2011 10:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

True

But I think Brunson has always been very underrated.

by JustineL on Sep 6, 2011 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

I’m happy for her that people are finally appreciating her.

by Shannon Cotterell on Sep 6, 2011 11:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Just because

I want to pull the Swish Appeal world on my ‘drama’…. I have been frantically running around my house area for the past two hours looking for my debit card/ID. This made me miss the whole first game. And stressed me out to the max. I think I need to pour me a drink now. And watch game #2 :)

by Jessica Lantz on Sep 6, 2011 10:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Ha

Was wedged between the seat of my car and the console….took me until the sixth tear apart of my automobile to find the little bugger!

by Jessica Lantz on Sep 6, 2011 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whew

Here I was thinking, “What kind of drunken stupor was this woman in?” ;)

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

For the record

It would make my night if Penicheiro drops 20 on em tonight.

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 10:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh yeah...

I’m talking about all the way into fantasy world: 20 pts 15 asts, 11 steals. 7 boards.

A block on Hammon maybe too.

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by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

See...

That’s the kind of Sparks pass that makes absolutely no sense…

Lobbing a ball into traffic…

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by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Dear Sparks,

Thanks for taking my advice and starting Tolliver and Penichero together.

But you have to lose now.

by Shannon Cotterell on Sep 6, 2011 10:41 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Another "SEE"...

(this team baffles me)

They CAN play D…they just often choose not to…

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by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 10:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Riley's offensive rebound...

My lord… didn’t even try to box…

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by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 10:44 PM EDT reply actions  

How can the Sparks be so fail at boxing out?

All these posts know how to do that. Lame.

by Shannon Cotterell on Sep 6, 2011 10:45 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I also refuse to pin this on coaching.

If you need to tell a pro team to box out better…there’s a problem.

 “These are the kind of games real competitors live for.” – Candace Parker

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chemistry

Maybe they’re motivated to play a bit for their own pride, but they don’t look like they want to play together.

Well, except Tina and Tolliver just tried to make me eat that comment.

by Shannon Cotterell on Sep 6, 2011 10:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Just ridiculous.

(And I do like Hammon)

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by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lots of people

are forty. or close to forty. even non basketball player people i know. ::cough cough cough::

by Jessica Lantz on Sep 6, 2011 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Vicki Johnson is 39.

That must freak her out a little that she’s coaching a player older than her.

by ttdomi on Sep 6, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

quinn hasn’t had a good season, in a season and a half

by Will_Taylor on Sep 6, 2011 10:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Sad, but true

That’s definitely part of their problem..

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by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

MicroTouchMax

I’m glad the all-important chest-shaving male WNBA fan demographic is being served.

by JustineL on Sep 6, 2011 10:59 PM EDT reply actions  

End 1: 20-18 San

A few observations:

- Rebounds have been secured. Riley leading with 4.
- Am I the only one who thinks, “Sydney Colson could’ve stopped her?” every time I see any guard drive to the hole? I’m troubled that I’m thinking that when she is nowhere near the arena?
- Riley is also doing an admirable job on Parker. I’ll take turn around lefty fades any day of the week.
- Jenna O’Hea is good. But if we start too many #Free[AussiePlayer] campaigns, we’ll spread ourselves too thin.

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by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 11:01 PM EDT reply actions  

You are not being weird about Colson

There is definitely a place for her in the league. IDK WTCwH is wrong with her getting PT in NY.

by Shannon Cotterell on Sep 6, 2011 11:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

It's very strange

Could have used her spark in Sunday.

by JustineL on Sep 6, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I seriously thought to myself

“Well, I wonder if they shoulda drafted Colson instead of Lavender?”

Stay with me now…

They had Paris in camp as a big… and you can’t tell me they couldn’t use her rebounding now…

OK. You may point and laugh now.

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

WHAT SHE SAID

THERE IS EVIL AFOOT IN TULSA KEEPING OUR LIZZIE DOWN!!!

by JustineL on Sep 6, 2011 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

Jessica sent a Lizzie shirt to the Seattle game for me so I could represent for the cause.

by Shannon Cotterell on Sep 6, 2011 11:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

don’t know why teams leave adams so open…that 3 is her shot.

by Will_Taylor on Sep 6, 2011 11:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Pffft

“Jenna O’Hea is good. But if we start too many #Free[AussiePlayer] campaigns, we’ll spread ourselves too thin.”

Too many? Does not compute. We Aussies are a persecuted minority in the WNBA. Save us!

by JustineL on Sep 6, 2011 11:04 PM EDT reply actions  

In solidarity with Jessica,

we’re directing our efforts to the #FreeLizzie cause.

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Definitely Kayla too :/

I love her so much. And I get called out if I ask about her. So no more Kayla news from me. :’( waa.

by Jessica Lantz on Sep 7, 2011 3:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe you could point out to rookie losing coach that she hasn't done ish as a coach yet, either

So why does she think anyone wants to talk to her?

(And then you could get thrown out of press conferences forever. But wouldn’t the look on her face be priceless?)

by Shannon Cotterell on Sep 7, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tully > Jenna

That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.

by Shannon Cotterell on Sep 6, 2011 11:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Bevilaqua hit a three

and then immediately looked over at the large-letter scoreboard to see where they stood.

by ttdomi on Sep 6, 2011 11:06 PM EDT reply actions  

bryant has to put in shooters that can counter what SASS is doing….Toliver on the bench isn’t helping. Even with 2 fouls, so what. Put her out there.

by Will_Taylor on Sep 6, 2011 11:06 PM EDT reply actions  

I was thinking that's what O'Hea was in there for.

But it’s insulting to let someone zone you up if you’re the best 3pt team in the league…

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Big Barbie doing good

It’s not wrong to call her that, is it?

by JustineL on Sep 6, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ultimate California girl.

She’s pretty much taller, stronger, fitter, better looking, nicer, and smarter than most of the people on the planet. I don’t think she cares what people call her.

by Shannon Cotterell on Sep 6, 2011 11:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Everyone in yellow just stood there...

…and watched Tully take the 3. At least pretend to defend.

by Shannon Cotterell on Sep 6, 2011 11:12 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Craig the photographer is at the game.

He texted.

To summarize, he’s not pleased that minutes of his life have been spent watching this event.

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by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions  

on i’m the free Jenna bangwagon. i thought she was in the doghouse consider bryant hadn’t played her in a while…but, i like her energy.

by Will_Taylor on Sep 6, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Seems like all coaches can have a strange

substitution pattern for some of their lower bench players

by ttdomi on Sep 6, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

There it was!

The rebound hit the floor! And DRob is who grabbed it!

Knew it.

by Shannon Cotterell on Sep 6, 2011 11:15 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

lol

The funny.. .or sad.. thing is that both Hammon and DRob were joked about and have gotten boards…

Yes, sad.

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by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was not joking

I never joke about Becky BigTime!

by JustineL on Sep 6, 2011 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

How ever did I get confused? :)

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

"They give it to Riley"

“Riley dancin in the streets!” “And she gets called for the travel”.

by ttdomi on Sep 6, 2011 11:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Jack Black?!

Damnit, I wanted to try to get to that game, too.

by Shannon Cotterell on Sep 6, 2011 11:20 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

SASS' problem (that I think Shannon and I have discussed previously)

Is they struggle to put teams away. They should be up by a LOT more but just don’t create shots well…

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 11:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes.

They are a really structured team, and they are at their best when they get to run their set plays. They do have people who can create but its like they don’t know when to do that.

by Shannon Cotterell on Sep 6, 2011 11:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I still want to see DRob really become OU DRob again

I think as she continues to gain confidence we’ll see it again, but they could sure use it this season.

by Shannon Cotterell on Sep 6, 2011 11:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Creating, and getting fired up about it

Dreadlock shaking, foot stomping, yelling, chest pounding.

by Shannon Cotterell on Sep 6, 2011 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

*trying to remember when I was last at a club *

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

And when I say

dreadlock shaking and foot stomping I mean head nodding and foot tapping. And when I say yelling I mean singing badly and loudly to the chorus of Ne-Yo songs. And when I say chest pounding I mean thigh slapping. But the resemblance between you and the collegiate DRob is kinda spooky.

by ttdomi on Sep 7, 2011 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

This whole thread of conversation has taken a really weird turn

Really, really weird.

And it makes me sort of itchy, TBH. Just saying.

by Shannon Cotterell on Sep 7, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Does that mean

The Porthole counts as a club? LOLOL

by Jessica Lantz on Sep 7, 2011 3:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

How irritated is Tina?

She’s a competitor. This season must make her want to break things.

by Shannon Cotterell on Sep 6, 2011 11:21 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

And, uh....

Why are they three-way switching if they’re not used to doing it… with their season on the line….

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

well...

…Tina been part of the problem this season. If she’s frustrated, hopefully she’s putting herself at the top of the list. Although, there are times when I wished she would just walk over and snatch the clipboard out of Jen or Jellybean’s hands and take over. LOL

by Will_Taylor on Sep 6, 2011 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

if dRob isn’t the fastest pg in the league, i don’t know who is…she is cat-quick.

by Will_Taylor on Sep 6, 2011 11:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Yup

And Essence Carson is quicker than people realise.

by JustineL on Sep 6, 2011 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

The other day Sue Wicks said that

Essence Carson was the most athletic player in the league “right there with Swin Cash and (I assume younger) Sheryl Swoopes”.

by ttdomi on Sep 6, 2011 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Lindsey Harding needs to be in that discussion as well.

But DRob is just amazing fast and increasingly controlled with the ball in her hands.

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by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

DMJ...

Might be the happiest person on earth…

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by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 11:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Halftime: 39-34...

We’re harping on the rebounds for good reason…

But the turnover story is noteworthy:

SASS: 8
LAS: 4

I can’t imagine that continuing… so they have to shoot better and stop SASS from getting to the rim so easily…

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 11:25 PM EDT reply actions  

"Terrel Owens is here!"

“I don’t know if that’s good news or not”.

by ttdomi on Sep 6, 2011 11:29 PM EDT reply actions  

T.O.is there…he needs to throw on a wig, grab a yellow uni, and go to work.

by Will_Taylor on Sep 6, 2011 11:29 PM EDT reply actions  

He tried to play summer league one year I think...

I sort of imagine him as a rookie Essence Carson type player…

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Time now for the first half stats "

brought to you by Waste Management".

by ttdomi on Sep 6, 2011 11:31 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Thank god they weren't the Mystics jersey sponsor this season

even though they would promote a healthy environment by recycling retreaded coaches and players

by thewiz06 on Sep 6, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dan Hughes thinks Ruth Riley is having her

best year since she’s been in San Antonio.

She never did dominate in the WNBA the way she did in her senior year in college. Leading a team with only 1 future WNBA player on it to the title. Although her teammate Sophia did with 0 WNBA players if I am not mistaken.

by ttdomi on Sep 6, 2011 11:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Parker is long and graceful, like a gazelle,

but when she is talking to teammates or coaches it always looks like she is on Jerseylicious.

by ttdomi on Sep 6, 2011 11:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow...

DMJ wants playoffs.

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 11:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Why

Why

WHY would you leave Hammon open?

Terrible communication.

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 11:50 PM EDT reply actions  

oooo Becky wants playoffs

I don’t know what she just said but it looked fierce.

by Shannon Cotterell on Sep 6, 2011 11:50 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Erm

I appear to have responded to this comment of yours below. Because I’m a bit challenged.

by JustineL on Sep 6, 2011 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's ok...

It takes getting used to.

A million bucks if you can properly define the distinction between a “fan post” and “fan shot”.

But overcoming the barriers to entry make it so much more fulfilling! :)

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I'm with San Antonio

All the way!!! Becky is amazing!!!

by JustineL on Sep 6, 2011 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

GRRRRR!!

I see your Hammon circus shot and raise you a DMJ elbow.

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by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dear Jayne,

Please grab the rebound with BOTH hands.

by Shannon Cotterell on Sep 6, 2011 11:56 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

OK, Silver Stars.

Show us some fire in the 4th.

by Shannon Cotterell on Sep 6, 2011 11:58 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

OK... roll call.

Sparks or Silver Stars.

I will ban all Silver Stars fans.

Just kidding.

(maybe)

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 6, 2011 11:59 PM EDT reply actions  

i vote

they both lose…I think it’s a possibility whenever WNBA refs are involved….

by garzai38 on Sep 7, 2011 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

OK... I hate to say this..

But Hammon must be shaving points with these turnovers…

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 7, 2011 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Dear Becky Hammon,

I’m sorry I offended you.

But please don’t take it out on the Sparks – I take full responsibility.

Thanks.

Nate

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 7, 2011 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

She is going to make you suffer...

…by dismantling the Sparks all by herself.

by Shannon Cotterell on Sep 7, 2011 12:11 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

May have to go to sleep, my eyes keep closing against my will

Very long day & I’m on the east coast but just wanted to say thanks for being so welcoming. I feel like Nate’s old blog & now swish appeal have taught me tonnes about the game & deepened my appreciation. Thank you.

by JustineL on Sep 7, 2011 12:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Thanks Justine.

Glad you dropped by.

Hope to see more of you! :)

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 7, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Becky Hammon

Becky finally decided to take the shot when she has it instead of looking for somebody to pass the ball off to. She finally heard me yelling. GO BECKY!

by lkg on Sep 7, 2011 12:07 AM EDT reply actions  

Haha

She’s doing her thing.

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 7, 2011 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

well, that’s a wrap for the sparks season folks… uncontested layups…season in a nutshell.

by Will_Taylor on Sep 7, 2011 12:10 AM EDT reply actions  

"We're working a a deal with Becky"

How hard is it to work out a deal in the WNBA? Does that mean they don’t want to pay her the max?

by ttdomi on Sep 7, 2011 12:12 AM EDT reply actions  

PUT THE HAMMER DOWN, SILVER STARS!

PUT IT DOWN HARD!

(Did I ever mention I was a Sparks STH for 2 seasons? But I barely have any emotional connection to them anymore.)

by Shannon Cotterell on Sep 7, 2011 12:13 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

You know you're in bad shape

when Tully banks in a 3 at the buzzer

by garzai38 on Sep 7, 2011 12:14 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Do they keep stats somewhere about which

WNBA teams have had the most shot clock violations?

by ttdomi on Sep 7, 2011 12:14 AM EDT reply actions  

I believe they either do or did.

But they’re not publicly available.

(Not sure on this)

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 7, 2011 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Seeing Ronkeeka Hodges

makes me fondly remember Doneeka Lewis who came in and started her first game at point guard for Tulsa and gave an inspired effort at home where Tulsa only lost by 8 to Phoenix (a win in my book). But then RIchardson got fired and her days were numbered.

by ttdomi on Sep 7, 2011 12:16 AM EDT reply actions  

Look at the Sparks bench.

They’ve totally given up. Where is that 3rd quarter energy?

Sorry, Sparks, but you really don’t deserve the playoffs this year. Take the extra time and figure your ish out.

by Shannon Cotterell on Sep 7, 2011 12:16 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Wow...

What a way to go out….

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 7, 2011 12:19 AM EDT reply actions  

why is parker guarding hammon…? that means there’s a mismatch someplace else? unreal.

by Will_Taylor on Sep 7, 2011 12:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Go ahead, get T'ed up.

In fact, get thrown out. Not like you’re doing anything anyway.

Oh, and he took my advice.

by Shannon Cotterell on Sep 7, 2011 12:21 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

To tell you the truth, LA is better

off in the lottery. They get a little more money for being in the playoffs this year but they need some players for the future. They’ve got 3 key players who are close to retirement.

by ttdomi on Sep 7, 2011 12:22 AM EDT reply actions  

DRob runs circles around you!

Chase her, silly Sparks…Chase her.

by Shannon Cotterell on Sep 7, 2011 12:22 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

SASS On to the Playoffs And Minnesots

Give up over 15 turnovers. Give up 4 offensive rebounds on one play and still win by 15. SASS needs to get a lot better quickly so they can stay with Minnesota. (HaHa).

by lkg on Sep 7, 2011 12:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Silver Stars vs. Lynx

Actually, 2 of the 4 games the Lynx beat the Silver Stars were won on last second shots. So, who knows? Every game is a new game starting at 0-0.

by lkg on Sep 7, 2011 12:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Luol Deng has pulled a Hammon or a Lyttle

Now a citizen of Britain and will play for their Olympic team.

by ttdomi on Sep 7, 2011 12:45 AM EDT reply actions  

deng was raised in the uk

He got citizenship in 2006 but liked in the UK for much of his childhood.

by thewiz06 on Sep 7, 2011 8:54 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

ben gordon, the pistons guard and former uconn star

is also playing for the UK and was born there, though I believe he moved to the us soon after birth.

by thewiz06 on Sep 7, 2011 8:55 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Oh, the guys on NBA-TV

gave me the impression he was just signed up as a citizen to play basketball with no history of being there. Maybe they were saying he wasn’t one of those cases.

Great Britain automatically gets a team as the host country. It’s a good thing they have Deng and Gordan so they can be somewhat respectable.

by ttdomi on Sep 7, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know, for all the talk in LA about how the Purple and Gold is all about championships,

The ballclubs sure tend to go out with a whimper when the chips are down. When the Lakers and the Sparks are facing elimination, more often than not they completely fall out of the picture by the time we get to the 4th quarter.

Lauren Jackson is back, and not a moment too soon!

by WaveOcean on Sep 7, 2011 3:00 AM EDT reply actions  

oh yes

Lauren Jackson is back, and not a moment too soon!

by WaveOcean on Sep 9, 2011 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dramatic collapses!

Hey, we are talking Los Angeles here. All Hollywood, all the time.

by Shannon Cotterell on Sep 7, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

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