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2011 WNBA Awards (Part 1): MVP, All-WNBA, Rookie of the Year, Sixth Woman, Most Improved Player

The most difficult part of figuring out end of season awards is that no matter who you select someone will take it as a slight to their favorite player.

That's especially true this year as you get to MVP and All-WNBA voting: trying to pick just four guards across two teams, for example, is a difficult task and parsing out first and second team is especially hard because it implies a hierarchy of talent when their isn't necessarily a clear one. There are arguably 5-6 nearly equivalent guards vying for four spots.

Maybe moreso than past years, these awards are ultimately more about evaluating someone's 2011 portfolio than any objective judgment of who they are as a player. So to warm-up before some of the tougher choices, I'll start with some of the clearer choices and work my way down.

Star-divide

Sixth Woman of the Year Award: DeWanna Bonner, Phoenix Mercury

Although it's becoming status quo for Bonner to win this award, she wasn't exactly the frontrunner all season - All-Star rookie forward Danielle Adams probably would've been the favorite had she played an entire season and All-Star guard Essence Carson isn't a bad choice either.

What sets Bonner apart is versatility on both ends of the floor: she's one of the few players who ends up guarding positions 1-5 and offensively she's extended her shooting range, shooting twice as many threes at about the same percentage as last season.

Honorable mention:

This hasn't changed much since last week, so click here for more on this one.

  • Essence Carson, G, New York Liberty
  • Jessica Davenport, C, Indiana Fever

Most Improved Player Award: Kia Vaughn, New York Liberty

This one is tough because, statistically, the top six candidates at mid-season got less productive in the second half of the season except one: Tulsa Shock forward Tiffany Jackson.

So why is Vaughn the choice? What we have to acknowledge about Vaughn (and Seattle Storm center Ashley Robinson) is that they went from rating as non-rotation players statistically based on their 2010 production to being effective starters in 2011. Whatever anyone else did, Robinson and Vaughn truly demonstrated a transformation in basketball ability this season whereas most of the other players candidates improved their production or role on the team with similar skill sets.

Where Vaughn gets the nod over Robinson is really circumstantial: Vaughn was forced to fill a void for the Liberty and then became a regular starter on a playoff team. Setting aside numbers, she improved dramatically defensively, figuring out how to use her physical gifts in new coach John Whisenant's. If you need a sign of improved game awareness, look no further than her career-high 5 assists against the Indiana Fever on Friday: her patience and response in the face of double teams has truly improved compared to last year.

Honorable mention:

For a look at the midseason rankings, click here.

  • Ashley Robinson, C, Seattle Storm: Kevin Pelton of StormBasketball.com has already put together a very persuasive description of why Robinson is absolutely deserving of this award. Last night sort of punctuated that improvement as Robinson did an outstanding job defensively on Chicago Sky center Sylvia Fowles. So why then wouldn't Robinson be the choice? Robinson was great in 24 minutes per game in 13 games as a starter in place of center Lauren Jackson, but her minutes slowly dropped to 12.75 minutes per game after Jackson's return from injury. Without negating Robinson's obvious improvement as a basketball player, it's fair to say that Vaughn's leap from bench player to everyday starter is impressive and gives her a bit of an edge.
  • Tiffany Jackson, F, Tulsa Shock: Interestingly enough, Pelton's chart shows only marginal per minute improvement by Jackson despite improvement in her averages and that's essentially what her numbers showed at midseason as well. Jackson did improve her production this season, but what Pelton's chart suggests is that a large part of the jump in her numbers can be accounted for by her minutes more than doubling in 2010. Again, that's not to negate what was an outstanding season, but we can say almost without question that Robinson and Vaughn improved more as basketball players.
  • Essence Carson, G, New York Liberty: Carson's greatest improvement was her shooting efficiency, which is what accounts for her increased scoring output. Carson has always been able to use her athleticism to get shots but this year she started hitting them not only with regularity but at key moments in games. As an All-Star and Sixth Woman of the Year candidate, there's been plenty of well-deserved buzz about what she's done this season but MIP might be the least likely award she'll win.

Rookie of the Year: Maya Moore, Minnesota Lynx

Once again, this would be a much tougher decision had San Antonio Silver Stars forward Danielle Adams not gotten injured. But with Adams' extended absence and struggle to return to early-season form after her return, Moore gets the nod here.

Although I had Moore at number one in the rookie rankings a month ago, something did actually change in the past month: Moore went from consistent to improved, which is the exactly what you hope for from a rookie. Moore went from about average to above average in her role as scorer for the Lynx, which is impressive. A large part of that is that the shots stopped falling and in August, she shot 46.1% from the field and 42.4% from the 3-point line, both pretty remarkable when considering that her attempts went up.

Forget about her free throw percentage: Moore is too busy hitting jumpers with increasing efficiency to get to the line very often anyway.

For the August rookie rankings, click here.

All-WNBA First Team

Tamika Catchings, F, Indiana Fever (MVP)

There are some who will argue that Catchings doesn't score enough to deserve the MVP award. To those people, I'd ask: what exactly is the cut-off for scoring required for a MVP? Catchings "only" finished the season 10th in the league in scoring this season because she's not a volume shooter like eight of the other nine players in front of her. That's partially because of shot selection and partially because she has a pure point rating that is above average for point guards, which makes her a more efficient passer than any small forward barring Phoenix Mercury forward Penny Taylor and many point guards. She's an efficient passer not because she creates a lot of assists, but because she doesn't turn the ball over very often (a turnover ratio of 10%).

All of that - plus her free throw rate of about 40%, among the highest of any player at her position - is why Catchings is accounts for a larger percentage of the Fever's production than any player did for their team short of Chicago Sky center Sylvia Fowles. It also explains why she finished the season as the league leader in plus/minus (+12.7).

And none of that - including her plus/minus - accounts for what Catchings does defensively, capable of guarding positions 1-4 successfully.

Punishing a MVP candidate for not scoring more because they are a low percentage scorer is one thing; punishing an efficient top 10 scorer in MVP voting because they're busy doing other things - literally everything else, while accounting for the second largest percentage of her team's production and having the biggest impact on the floor by plus/minus - is indefensible. There are legitimate arguments for other players to win the MVP, but that's not it.

Penny Taylor, F, Phoenix Mercury

Taylor is one of those players who has a reasonable shot at the MVP. Of course, if it's scoring you're concerned about, she's "only" 8th in the league because like Catchings she's busy doing other things. But where she differs from Catchings is that she was ridiculously efficient with a true shooting percentage of 64.21%, matching her performance from 2010. In addition to being an even more efficient distributor (2.89 pure point rating) than Catchings, Taylor actually has an assist ratio (23.40%) that places her squarely in the range of an average point guard. It's not difficult to figure out the value of someone who can pass the ball that efficiently from the wing in a system that thrives on scoring in transition.

Taylor falls short of Catchings in the MVP contest primarily because Catchings is such a dynamic defender, a much better rebounder, and simply accounts for more of her team's success. But Taylor is simply too good a player not to deserve consideration for MVP and it would be unfortunate for her to be left off the All-WNBA first team, although there are plenty of strong candidates at her position.

Sylvia Fowles, C, Chicago Sky

Look no further than Fowles' performance against the Seattle Storm last night for evidence of why she has a very strong claim as the MVP. Sure, you can say that the Sky were feeding her on every play, but how many players could even dream of scoring 19 points in a quarter after everyone has figured out it's going to her on the block?

But MVP voting - contrary to some of the hype - is not about the ability to put on scoring displays in one quarter. In addition to leading the league in field-goal percentage (59.1%), minutes per game (34.6) and blocks per game (2.0), Fowles also became only the second player in WNBA history to average 20 points and 10 rebounds in one season and, for whatever it's worth, the first since the implementation of the 24-second shot clock (three point attempts have gone up in that time). When you consider that the Sky had a turnover problem and inconsistent point guard play - making it difficult for Fowles to even get the ball - what she's done this season is quite remarkable.

There wouldn't be a whole lot more to say about Fowles except that no player contributed more to their team's success than she did - she accounted for just under 30% of her team's overall statistical production. Fowles has been dominant on both ends of the floor this year. The only thing holding her back from a MVP award - she actually does score with the third-best scoring average in the league - is that she couldn't take her team to the playoffs. Catchings' combination of efficiency, versatility and production on a playoff team in a close MVP race led me to give her the edge. But Fowles is a perfectly logical MVP selection on multiple levels, not the least of which is a simple question: where on earth would the Sky have been without her?

Sue Bird, G, Seattle Storm

Although it's definitely reasonable to argue that the Storm had a "disappointing" season relative to lofty expectations, the same question that applies to Fowles, applies to Bird: where on earth would the Storm be without her? Given that center Lauren Jackson missed 21 games this season, I can promise you the answer is not second place in the Western Conference.

It's probably starting to look like I'm merely copying and pasting Kevin Pelton's WARP leaders from September 1 with elaborations, but that's not entirely true - once again, it's a matter of Bird doing so much for her team that you can't ignore her. Bird accounts for just under 23% of her team's overall statistical production, which is more than any guard in the league and fourth overall behind the three players above and Connecticut Sun center Tina Charles. But perhaps more importantly in terms of what matches observation, the Storm's offense is +14.3 when Bird is on the court. In simpler terms, she has had a bigger impact on her team's offense than any player in the league.

There are guards in the league who have put up gaudier statistics and Bird has been more of a scorer than normal with a team-high 14.7 points per game, but arguably no guard has done more to win games for their team than Bird. That doesn't necessarily make her the frontrunner for the MVP, but it takes a special player to carry her team as a distributor and scorer as often as Bird has.

After Bird, things get tough at the guard position.

Lindsay Whalen, G, Minnesota Lynx

Last year there were no point guards on the first team; this year you could argue for two.

But in what has become an annual debate about best point guard in the WNBA for me, Whalen wins in 2011 despite Bird's outstanding season pretty much for what she demonstrated in scoring 20 points and 11 assists the other day - nobody runs an offense more smoothly than Whalen. The Lynx are full of talent and each of them contributes in their own way, but Whalen is particularly significant because she has the ball in her hands more than anyone else and is the player who makes that team's potent offensive attack go.

Not only was she the most efficient point guard with a league-high pure point rating of 6.03, which was significantly above the next best point guard. In addition to leading the league in passing efficiency, she led her high scoring team in scoring efficiency on the strength of 40.5% 3-point shooting.

What that adds up to is Whalen being arguably the best playmaker in the league at the guard position - she is responsible for getting the ball to the right place while recognizing the opportunities to score herself.

All-WNBA Second Team

Becky Hammon, G, San Antonio Silver Stars

Similar to Whalen, what makes Hammon particularly impressive is that she can singlehandedly dismantle a defense in so many ways - driving to pass, score, or get free throw attempts, spreading the court with threes, and just flat out winning games. Hammon isn't far behind Catchings as third in the league in plus/minus (+12.4) and her ability to set up her passing with her scoring so well is what sets her apart from many other guards in the league.

Most remarkable: Hammon gets defensive rebounds at a shockingly high rate (about 10%) for a 5'6" point guard. When you consider where a 5'6" guard normally is when a shot goes up, that's impressive and it represents the heart she plays with better than any other number.

She's not on the second team here because she's inherently inferior to Bird or Whalen - we can't put everyone on the first team and there are about five guards who have a legitimate claim to a spot on the first team based on what they've done this season due to some combination of ability, contribution to team, or basic stats.

But where Hammon might fall behind Bird or Whalen is that in being such a risk-taker, she also turns the ball over more often which makes her a less efficient playmaker. With Bird just doing so much to carry her team to second place and Whalen being way more efficient than either Bird or Hammon as a point guard, Hammon was the choice for second team. That's not at all the same as saying she's not a good player.

Cappie Pondexter, G, New York Liberty

Here is where things get even tougher. Diana Taurasi is the league's leading scorer and put on some spectacular scoring performances this season. Seimone Augustus is one of the greatest scorers the league has ever seen and an underrated defender on one of the league's top defensive teams. But Pondexter's performance this season is on par with either of theirs and again there are only so many spots. So the tie is going to the last remaining guard who is clearly her team's MVP, accounting for just under 19% of her team's production.

Pondexter is similar in function to Hammon in that both are best when they're looking to score first as penetrators and creating opportunities for others off of their scoring ability. Pondexter is just looks to shoot more often thus making her a bit less efficient, and creates assists less often. But she is easily among the best one-on-one offensive players the league has ever seen and for a defensive-minded Liberty team that sometimes stagnates in the halfcourt, Pondexter's ability to make something out of nothing is impressive.

Tina Charles, C, Connecticut Sun

Any player that records 23 double-doubles in 34 games is doing something right. We really can't dispute that. She set new franchise records for scoring average (17.6 ppg.), total points (600), made field goals (254) and field goal attempts (543), all very impressive and part of why she accounted for the second largest percentage of her team's overall production in the league (23%). So why then is she behind Fowles, other than not averaging 20 & 10?

While she's not outside the top 10 in my estimation as Pelton's WARP standings last indicated, the reason why WARP looks unfavorably upon her numbers as a MVP candidate is the same reason I do: having a true shooting percentage around 50% as someone who shoots the ball so often puts her significantly behind Fowles and anyone else under consideration in the top 10. It's especially damaging for someone who gets a lot of her shots right around the basket. A large part of that low true shooting percentage is simply that she hasn't gotten to the free throw line often at all and only shoots 68.7% when she does get there. But if you have to choose between Charles and Fowles for an All-WNBA center this season, it's difficult to find the argument for Charles given all that Fowles has done.

Angel McCoughtry, F, Atlanta Dream

Again, we're to the point that there's more players than slots available which makes this tough, but McCoughtry's second half scoring performance will garner her MVP votes and she's the last remaining forward who has clearly been the MVP of her team.

Adding to McCoughtry's argument for All-WNBA is her defensive ability as someone who will likely be considered for Defensive Player of the Year. She causes so many problems on both ends of the floor that it's difficult to leave her off this list.

Rebekkah Brunson, F, Minnesota Lynx

Again, it's tough to leave anybody off this list and this selection really comes down Brunson, Crystal Langhorne and I'm sure both Candice Dupree and Maya Moore will get a few votes this year as well.

But Brunson has been amazing on the boards this season and that alone makes her among the most imposing defensive forces in the league - it's much easier to run if you rebound and Brunson helps the Lynx do just that while helping the Lynx to a number of wins out of the gate before they gelled.

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I think the MVP is either going to Tamika Catchings or Sue Bird

I think Catchings had the better last few games than Bird however since for Tamika improved her points while Sue’s numbers dropped a little from 16 ppg to a little under 15 ppg. Bird’s FG%age took a good hit too over the last month from 50ish percent to just under 45%, but it’s still her best season in terms of FG%age since 2004 and she had a career high in points, so maybe it evens out. They don’t have the best stats among forwards and guards, but they are the foundational players on their teams and have been why their teams have been so successful over the past decade.

The voters may also sympathize with their age which is why I think this award will go to either of them. Both Catchings and Bird are on the wrong side of 30, even though they are still in their primes. Though I think they will still be playing at a very high level for at least a couple more seasons, this is the only year all the elements came to a point where it’s a great time for either of them to win this award, and such an opportunity may never come again as they get older.

If I had to pick one player to be MVP this year, it’s Catchings, because she provides a lot more on the defensive end along with her solid offensive play, not to mention that the Fever returned to being the East’s #1 team, after a one year absence, and to be honest, the Fever was the best team in the East last year as well though their record didn’t say so. As for Bird, she isn’t a horrible defender , but she’s not one of the top 10 perimeter defenders either, and even though she was the leading scorer in Seattle this season, she wasn’t really head and shoulders above anyone in any category either aside from assists and three point shots which we kinda expect anyway. Catchings still stands out from her teammates statistically in multiple categories such as steals, rebounds, points, free throws, and assists. She even gets a good amount of blocks for a wing.

by thewiz06 on Sep 12, 2011 11:52 AM EDT reply actions  

Good choices - A couple of obvious other contenders

The other easy to think of contenders: Katie Douglas, Diana Taurasi, Siemone Augustus, Maya Moore, Candace Dupree, Renee Montgomery.

I had been thinking this past weekend that justice and fairness require that Ms. Taylor
at least make the 2nd team. Nate deserves credit for putting her in the top 4 among the
2011 performers at the forward position.

by 77DJK on Sep 12, 2011 3:04 PM EDT reply actions  

On most improved

I think Armintie Price deserves mention as the WNBA’s Most Improved. Her improvement along with stepping in for Iziane Castro Marques who was ineffective was paramount in the Dream’s turnaround.

I could also make a case for Angel McCoughtry as MVP and for 1st team All WNBA. However, I really like Penny Taylor and I agree there are a lot of deserving players for just two spots. I think it is understated how much McCoughtry’s play had to do with the Dream’s rebounding from a 3-9 start

@Kris_Willis

by Kris Willis on Sep 12, 2011 3:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Very understated.

My guess: McCoughtry gets First Team WNBA. I’ll have no gripes with that.

I’d struggle to place her above Catchings for MVP though: even with the Fever’s late-season struggle, 12 out of 34 games without McCoughtry playing so well is significant.

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 12, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

12 of 34

Catchings wasn’t exactly burning it up early either. Katie Douglas looked like the Fever MVP through June. The Fever are one game better than the Dream (and got swept by Atlanta head-to-head) despite Angel missing a game and playing only 3 minutes of another (both losses, of course) and Catchings having superior talent around her.

by pilight on Sep 12, 2011 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think Angel will win it

and if you have ever watched a game with me you know that she absolutely drives me crazy with some of the decisions she makes. However, if the award is for the Most Valuable Player, then I am not sure any one player means more to their team than Angel McCoughtry.

@Kris_Willis

by Kris Willis on Sep 13, 2011 7:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

"...I am not sure any one player means more to their team than Angel McCoughtry"

I’ll start with my bias then: I think a pretty strong argument could be made in favor of Sue Bird as that player. During that 21 games without Jackson, she single-handedly won games and is the primary reason the Storm remained in contention.

Then there’s Fowles, even on a non-playoff team.

Anyway, this list was not necessarily ordered by MVP, but by All-WNBA…but Pelton’s final WARP stats have her fourth overall, FWIW: http://tracker.stormbasketball.com/?p=2155

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 13, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well i was shocked!!

I’d personally give the nods on the second team to Taurasi and Dupree over Brunson and Pondexter cuz for me they both disappeared as the season closed. Price is far and above my MIP and I think this is the year Tamika breaks through ever so slightly over Fowles & Whalen.

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by DaSharpshoota15 on Sep 12, 2011 4:36 PM EDT reply actions  

for mip, nate, come on

No Shockers and no Mystics allowed. Their seasons justify all of them getting excluded from every award except rookie teams… and even then I dunno if a Mystic will make it…

Then again your Warriors had two mip’s in the last ten years with Mr. Fingerguns and Monta

by thewiz06 on Sep 12, 2011 5:07 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Numbers

Nate it would be really good if you went back and put the right numbers in your rookie rankings. they are not even close thank you. Maya will still win and wrong numbers make it look dodgy

by Almost there on Sep 12, 2011 5:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Those numbers are from the beginning of August, if you note the date

I’ll have updated ones coming up soon (possibly tomorrow).

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 12, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

For the MIP rankings (Kris, wiz, sharpshoota) I'll begin with Pelton's graph:

http://www.wnba.com/storm/news/arob_improved.html

Robinson and Vaughn are way ahead of the pack. I agree that Price is right there though.

I’ll elaborate in a bit.

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 12, 2011 5:41 PM EDT reply actions  

FROM THE HAIR STORY!

I gotta keep writing random stuffs! lol

by Jessica Lantz on Sep 13, 2011 2:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know!

I was giggling when I realized it was from your hair story.

See? HAIR IS VERY IMPORTANT!

by Shannon Cotterell on Sep 13, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

How is that up for discussion?

Just ask Samson how important hair is!

by JustineL on Sep 14, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

VCR numbers for MIP:

VCR from 2010:
Vaughn: .36
Robinson: .60
Jackson: .86
Carson: .81
Price: .84

VCR from 2011:
Vaughn: 1.11 (.75)
Robinson: .88 (.28)
Jackson: 1.42 (.56)
Carson: 1.18 (.37)
Price: 1.12 (+.28)

League average: .76

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 13, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Two things happened here that set Robinson and Vaugh apart:

1. They went from well below average players to above average players, in Vaughn’s case well above average as a starter. In MIP voting, that has to be recognized.

2. What Pelton’s chart looks at increased fg% over career fg%, but VCR takes into account increases in scoring efficiency from last season: +7.1 fg% for A-Rob and +14.9 fg% for Vaughn. Price was also impressive with a +13.2 fg% increase. This brings up an interesting point and the argument for Robinson over Vaughn: Vaughn regressed in her sophomore year, meaning p40 over her career, she didn’t improve that much this year – she just finally got opportunity. But then take career VCR: 61.5. That’s still going from sub-rotation to starter-caliber (though not entirely fair to A-Rob). But I think as Shannon and I have discussed, Vaughn’s observable improvement on the court is noteworthy.

The key differences are about the character of improvement: Robinson & Vaughn went through transformational improvements. The rest went from solid players last year to very good now. But think about how valuable that was for the Liberty/Storm: they essentially “added” players to their rotation that ended up filling huge voids and helping them get to the playoffs. That’s different than a player already in the rotation improving, not to negate the impressive seasons that Carson, Jackson, & Price had.

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 13, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

For the record...

Ashley’s been through her own regressions: http://www.wnba.com/playerfile/ashley_robinson/career_stats.html

She shot 20% from the field in 2009? Seriously? 20% And her free throw shooting percentage has never been anything but abysmal, but it’s still a roller-coaster ride year-to-year.

I guess my personal thing with ARob vs. Vaughn for that top spot is that I feel like ARob had a very good season when her team needed her…but I’m just not certain I feel like a corner has been turned where the improvement is going to stick the way I do with Kia. ARob’s already been up and down and up and down—maybe not this far up, but still. Kia had a sophomore slump (there’s a reason we have the saying “sophomore slump”), but then has made a major leap forward in all aspects of her game. Her game awareness is visibly improved, which leads to better decisions when she has the ball, and fewer fouls.

I know that falls into the “I don’t need stats, I just know what I see” category a bit, but I think Vaughn’s also more than got the stats to back up her case for MIP.

I think the biggest proof of Kia’s improvement, however, is available in Queenie’s GAme Notes of Doom. You read two years of her telling the fans yelling “KIIIIIAAAAAAAA!!” to shut up because NO, WE DON’T WANT KIA IN THE GAME BECAUSE SHE WILL MESS EVERYTHING UP. And then this year despite Queenie’s worries pre-season about the team losing McCarville…she hasn’t picked on Kia any more than she picks on any of the rest of the Lib starters. ;) That says something to me, anyway.

by Shannon Cotterell on Sep 13, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd for finding that GNoD supports the stats (and/or vice versa)

This is what this really comes down to: “game awareness is visibly improved” and that does veer into the “I don’t need no stinking stats” zone, but I think it’s why I use stats like VCR – it really reflects that type of change well.

Other evidence of game awareness: that 5 assist performance vs. Indiana on Sept 9. It was a career-high for a reason and not just from being on the court longer.

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 13, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

Last year those 5 assists would likely have been turnovers against a team of Indiana’s caliber.

Again, per 40 measurements aren’t always the best way to measure, but it’s an easy measurement to understand for non-statheads. I think it’s notable that Kia turns the ball over less per 40 mins (as well as per game) than other starting centers like Fowles and Charles. Kia’s at 2.6 per 40 this year, as opposed to 3.0 per 40 last year.

Not trying to beat a live horse to death here. I’m just really personally excited about Kia’s performance this year so I’m sort of having a tough time keeping my mouth shut. :P

by Shannon Cotterell on Sep 13, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good point on turnovers

Interestingly, Robinson’s went up a smidge by percentage.

Personally, I’d be happy with either Robinson or Vaughn getting the award. Vaughn’s basketball improvement is outstanding but Robinson deserves credit for sticking with it, working hard, and remaining a very positive veteran lockerroom presence despite all the criticism she’s taken from fans and media. To me, that made her a strong candidate for the Sportsmanship award – I know that isn’t necessarily what the spirit of the MIP award is about.

My guess: neither wins it and it goes to Price or Carson, both deserving players whose improvement was more noticeable if you haven’t been watching Vaughn/Robinson as close as you/I have.

Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Sep 13, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

That would bum me out (not the Price and Carson did not also improve)

However, it would surprise me if Carson got the award while people managed to sleep on Vaughn. I guess Carson is the more…dynamic?…of the two, so she makes a play where everyone goes “oooooh….ahhhhhh” and then it’s easy to say “look at how much she’s improved this year.”

Meantime Kia is just down there being a solid presence in the paint and making you forget she was every anything but this solid.

ARob may suffer from people being forgetful in a way, too. She’s been around for many years so its hard to remember that this is the first year she’s done this well.

I haven’t been watching a ton of Atlanta games (ever) due to time difference and the fact that other teams I like better have overlapping games, so I sort of hadn’t realized that Price had improved that much. I just saw her play and thought “Well of course she’s doing that well. Wait, what do you mean she hasn’t always been doing that well?”

by Shannon Cotterell on Sep 13, 2011 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maya Moore never had a game as impressive

as Danielle Robinson had last night. They might want to continue to rest Hammon throughout the Western Conference playoffs. Tell her they are saving her for the finals.

by ttdomi on Sep 12, 2011 5:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Maya doesn't have to be the #1 player on Minnesota given who's there

and it’s arguable that Seimone is the franchise player if you had to give that label to only one person.

by thewiz06 on Sep 13, 2011 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maya Moore never had a game as impressive as Danielle Robinson had last night.

One game does not a season make. DRob was really on last night because they were in her backyard (Oklahoma); she had lots of fans, friends, and family in the stands; and they were playing the worst team in the league (Tulsa). Based on 1 game, I think Danielle Adams’ early on big game may also eclipse Moore. But, per the WNBA stats, DA doesn’t have enough games to qualify and she is just now getting back to pre-injury form. (Hopefully, she can still make the all-rookie team). But, the good news for me and all the other Silver Stars fans is that with DRob peaking and DA getting back to pre-injury level of play the Silver Stars have a good shot at finally beating the Lynx and maybe, just maybe going all the way. Go SAS!

by lkg on Sep 12, 2011 9:06 PM EDT reply actions  

"...they were playing the worst team in the league (Tulsa)."

And I have to add…. not to take anything from D-Rob’s game … Tulsa did not defend her at all. Half of those drives to the basket were completely uncontested.

Impressive game, but not enough to elevate her above Moore.

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by Nate Parham on Sep 12, 2011 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but...

…who’s CAN check DRob?

There are very few players in the league who have the quickness to defend her when she drives, and she’s also generally going to make the move to drive only when she sees there’s a lane she can split before people can rotate to close the gap. She has a very good awareness of angles and correctly estimates her own speed, which means you rarely see her take a truly bad drive to the hoop.

And when she wasn’t driving, she was pulling up and taking almost-3s (worst shot in basketball) over outstretched arms. Even one of our favorite Big-12 defenders couldn’t stop that.

Not to say she deserves ROY over Moore based on that one game, but I do think DRob can create “uncontested” layups at will against most teams in the WNBA, actually.

by Shannon Cotterell on Sep 13, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

"…who’s CAN check DRob?"

Apparently the other 10 teams that held her under what Tulsa allowed in one quarter?

I’m not trying to negate her talent – you know I like her. Playing next to Hammon limits her touches so this was an opportunity to show just how good she was for really the first time. And I don’t expect many players to stay in front of Robinson.

But even with all that, most teams are capable of rotating and playing good enough help defense to contest layups. Tulsa’s help defense was terrible.

In any event, what we can take away from this game is what ikg said: the good news for Silver Stars fans is that DRob is peaking.

Could that be the key to putting them over the top vs. the Lynx?

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by Nate Parham on Sep 13, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Apparently the other 10 teams that held her under what Tulsa allowed in one quarter?"

How much of that was the teams holding her under, and how much of it was DRob being a good rookie and running the set offense coach told her to?

With the playoff picture set, and Hammon on the sideline, wanna bet that DRob got a TON of free reign from coach in that Tulsa game to show what she could do?

This is what I’ve been trying to say during the season when I’m saying that OU DRob hasn’t shown up yet. She hasn’t. She’s been holding herself in check and doing the fundamental things and learning and running the offense by the book. As a rookie coming off the bench, she didn’t have the green light to do otherwise.

by Shannon Cotterell on Sep 13, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

"How much of that was the teams holding her under, and how much of it was DRob being a good rookie and running the set offense coach told her to?"

Solid point … and again, you know I love her game.

Where we might differ is that I’d be willing to bet is that against a better D she wouldn’t be able to do the things with such ease as we saw in Tulsa.

Maybe 20-25, but not 36 points on 14-19 shooting.

But this is also interesting: “OU DRob hasn’t shown up yet” I think a lot of that is what has made her the 4th most efficient PG in the league thus far. OU Drob was doing everything. SASS DRob had Hammon and Young (and Adams) to score so suddenly she could focus on just running the offense. In a way, it’s made her a smarter, more patient player so I’d prefer to think of it as “growth” rather than “holding herself back”, but that’s semantic.

What I think we’re starting to see now is a fusion of high usage scorer OU DRob and high efficiency distributor SASS DRob. And, well, that’s frightening….if you’re an opponent.

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by Nate Parham on Sep 13, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

"What I think we’re starting to see now is a fusion of high usage scorer OU DRob and high efficiency distributor SASS DRob"

I know. It makes me giggle with fiendish glee just to think about it.

I agree that she’s not going to blow huge holes in really really good D, and there are definitely teams that have really really good D. But as a 1v1 matchup she’s still going to cause headaches to teams, and Tulsa’s not the only team she’d be able to blow up like that…if she’s allowed.

What I’m saying about holding herself back…the point is that we can see that DRob has the speed and ability to bust defenses, and that’s what she’d been doing at OU. And she may actually have the green light to call her own number on occasion, however, she is indeed deferring to the veteran players. Sure it’s smart to give Hammon the ball—she’s Becky Freakin’ Hammon!—but I’d also say on occasion when SASS has been in a slump and the structure broke down a bit, it would have also been smart for DRob to take initiative and blow the game open herself. OU DRob did that when her team needed her, because she knew as a leader on her team it was her call to do that. Rookie WNBA DRob doesn’t think it’s her place to do that…

…yet.

by Shannon Cotterell on Sep 13, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s too unfair. That can’t happen.

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by Nate Parham on Sep 13, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd give her mine if I could. I'm not using it.

She’d have to adjust it for an inch or two of height, but it would be a passable place to start, anyway. ;)

by Shannon Cotterell on Sep 13, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Armintie gets my vote for most improved too. I would go for Catchings for MVP. You could make a good case for Angel, Charles, Fowles, Diana, Sue and maybe one or two more. But each one mentioned has some drawback too. But Catchings has done it for years and deserves the recognition. The vote will probably be split many ways so it could be a real surprise this time. Angel for first team.

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