Tuesday Night Open Thread: A Full Slate On LiveAccess
by Nate Parham on Aug 30, 2011 7:01 PM EDT
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PrintWe have a full slate tonight with all 12 WNBA teams in action on WNBA LiveAccess, however we also have a bit of a dilemma - five of these six overlap.
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Chicago Sky at 7 p.m. ET | LiveAccess |
Indiana Fever at 7:30 p.m. ET | LiveAccess |
Washington Mystics at 8 p.m. ET | LiveAccess |
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Connecticut Sun at 8 p.m. ET | LiveAccess |
Phoenix Mercury at 8 p.m. ET | LiveAccess |
Seattle Storm at 10:30 p.m. ET | LiveAccess |
The thread in the comments is open and you can feel free to drop your take on the games and their playoff implications before, during, and after games.
But I was asked earlier today which games I would want to watch and I'll give my suggestions after the jump, based on a watchability scale I put together earlier this season.
Most exciting game (of the first five): Chicago Sky at New York Liberty
These two played a tight contest on Sunday in Chicago and with the Sky playing a bit better lately, it will be interesting to see if they can keep it going a) on the road and b) against a quality opponent. Every game is a must-win for them at this point with the Dream playing so well, so the game shouldn't be lacking for intensity.
Most intriguing game (of the first five): Phoenix Mercury at Tulsa Shock
Seriously, I just want to see if this alternate universe Shock team that has shown up for the last two games decided to stick around at the BOK Center. There's reason to believe that this team is legitimately improving rather than just benefiting from two fluke performances by opponents because multiple players have stepped up their games to make it work. The Shock will likely have an offensive rebounding advantage against the Mercury once again, so it will be interesting to see if they're able to turn that into a win.
Most unpredictable game (of the night): Seattle Storm at Los Angeles Sparks
With both teams playing better with Lauren Jackson and Candace Parker back, respectively, and coming off a 2 point game on Sunday, it's sort of hard to say what the outcome of this game will be or what it will look like. What we do know is that the Storm can clinch a playoff berth tonight and the Sparks need wins.
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as well you should!
Big game tonight.
I expect something that gets a bit ugly at times, but that’s what you Eastern people do. ;)
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Got new phone battery per previous suggestion (thanks!)
Only problem is I won’t be seeing any more games live this season (most likely). I wanted to see if I could get to LA for the Tulsa and Sky games, but I can’t get that Friday off from work.
by Shannon Cotterell on Aug 30, 2011 7:06 PM EDT reply actions
Two games from the 1970s....
…are being shown on NBA-TV tonight, or so I’ve heard.
by James Bowman on Aug 30, 2011 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
The good news tonight, as C&R noted...
…is that no Stanford players will be playing each other tonight, so I am free to cheer/feign indifference for their teams.
by Shannon Cotterell on Aug 30, 2011 7:12 PM EDT reply actions
Don't forget
To feign indifference for Tulsa!!! #GoShock
by Jessica Lantz on Aug 30, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
A handful of Indiana fever fans....
…here I see. A couple of Catchings jerseys sitting near the Indy bench.
Silver and Black give back
The San Antonio SilverStars referring to themselves the way the Oakland Raiders are referred.
I think you need more blood and guts to compare yourselves to the Raidahs. The Detroit Shock, maybe; San Antonio, no.
by James Bowman on Aug 30, 2011 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Boy, Kraayveld just got a pass in
to Fowles with Kia Vaughn and Montgomery or Carson right against Fowles. It was thrown in a way that only Fowles could get high enough to touch it. The Sky is really looking to throw it down to Fowles this year.
I wish Tulsa would get that mindset with Cambage.
Announcer says Kia Vaughn is tired and needs a break.
“I know when a player is tired. They are either standing straight up or grabbing their shorts”.
Kia looked tired near the end of the Seattle game
I saw Ta’Shia Phillips yell at her from the bench and tug on her own jersey, telling Kia to ask to sub out. Kia gave a quick shake of her head…“no”. But everyone could see she was tired and Whiz pulled her and put Braxton in.
I spent the rest of the game yelling down at Whiz to put Kia back in the game. :\
by Shannon Cotterell on Aug 30, 2011 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Ephiphany Prince gets a clear out to go one on one
with Montgomery. But she dribbles away the shot clock.
Woman on the lib bench in a White Business suit
and looking at their roster it must be their trainer Lisa White who has been with the Liberty every year of their existence. Does the WNBA have a pension?
Up, back to Vandersloot at point
and she drives between two defenders but misses the jumper. Color Announcer – “Oh, that’s a big time move. They were hedging and she drove right through them”.
Kia Vaugn doing something with her shorts
I guess it could be referred to as a ’side roll" or “side tuck”.
The official term for any kind of short tucking is "Cambaged"
by Shannon Cotterell on Aug 30, 2011 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Pondexter down and very slow to get up.
Tweaked her ankle falling after a jumper.
I believe the color commentator is Sue Wicks who doesn’t sound like you would expect her to. Very young and shy voice.
Cappie has been the leading Liberty scorer
in 17 games.
Sue Wicks says that at Rutgers it was Pondexter’s dream to play with the Liberty.
Sue Wicks says you want to see Q
do something and adds that they (Liberty) spent all morning talking about this.
Sue Wicks:
“Everyone thinks offense if all about shots. But it’s about first setting the pick, then coming off hard, then getting the shot.”
10-0 run for New York. Up by two.
Kia Vaugn hit’s a shot and Sue Wicks says “She looked like a giant Cappie on that play. She held her hand up, I thought it was Cappie”.
Sue Wicks:
“Everyone will tell you that. The best one on one player in this league – Cappie Pondexter. She’s right up there with Cynthia Cooper.”
Holy photon
every team’s playing tonight. And I can’t even watch any of it………..
Lauren Jackson is back, and not a moment too soon!
Lineups in Tulsa:
For the Phoenix Mercury –
G Temeka Johnson, G Diana Taurasi, F Candice Dupree, F DeWanna Bonner, C Nakia Sanford
For the Tulsa Shock –
G Ivory Latta, G Amber Holt, F Sheryl Swoopes, F Jennifer Lacy, C Tiffany Jackson (this will be the 6th consecutive game with this starting five)
Officials -
Denise Brooks, Scott Twardoski, Byron Jarrett
Nicky Anosike on being back in MN, per @LynxRadio
Anosike on MIN success “what they have here is working for them so I’m happy their choices are working for them”
Translation: The Mystics suck and I hate everyone.
OK maybe not exactly that, but it has to blow to want to leave a struggling team and then wind up going to another team that’s even worse.
by Shannon Cotterell on Aug 30, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Did she want to leave because they were
struggling or because they were telling her play when she said she was injured? Or was she faking injury?
it wouldn't be totally inaccurate to have smiling smileys representing the viewpoints of Caps players
and angry faces for the Mystics now that you gave that note about Anosike playing Minny in Minny.
Sue Wicks says
Essence Carson is the premier athlete in this league, in the same class as Sheryl Swoopes and Swin Cash.
Two longtime Liberty season ticket holders
Alice Oskay and Alice Oskay Sr. (??) help present her with her award.
She was told she only has 45 seconds to talk. She says that looking at the videos she thought “Dang I was slim up there.”. OK, that’s one way to go with it, Kym.
Thanks her
Facebook and Twitter friends.
“You know I had to have this note because I am getting old.. No. Psych!”.
Thanks Jim Dolan,
who must be in attendance for starting a team and keeping it going for 15 years “even though it’s not making you any money, I think.”
Kym is going over her 45 seconds. But when she said
that she was told she only had that much time she said "Yeah right!’.
Imploring fans to
bring someone to future games. She is thanking everyone, now even the Newark Prudential Center.
She sings her endings “Let’s get it started in hereeaaaaahheeeeaaaahhhheheearrrr”!
The Liberty ring of honor consists of
Vicki Johnson
Teresa Weatherspoon
Rebecca Lobo
Sue Wicks
Kym Hampton.
I've seen all of the induction speeches...
…and none of them were under 45 seconds, so she’s just following in the other ladies’ footsteps ;)
Hey, I know them!
Actually, I know Alice’s daughter Chrissy, the, er, violent member of the family. “BOUNCE IT OFF HER HEAD!” She got her training as a hockey fan…
I am the victim of a basketball jones.
Cambage was just posting up almost at the elbow.
Pedersen came around a Cambage screen but missed badly on a jumper. Kayla needs to really get in the gym and work on her shooting.
Shanna wants to see them
go back to Cambage inside. It looked like Cambage was fighting for position again, but at least 10 feet from the basket.
Cambage just came down the floor and ran
right into a Phoenix player who goes down hard (foul on Cambage). Shanna calls it uncalled for. “You saw them jabbin at the free throw line and you knew something was coming. But just go around her.”
Cambage is a funny mixture of a soft player who doesn’t want to go down low all the time and do the pushing and yet she will headhunt when she is mad at you.
I guess the player she blasted is
Krystal Thomas who the roster claims is 6’5" but she certainly doesn’t look 3 inches shorter than Cambage.
For the record, I don't think there
should be pushing in basketball and I don’t think the rule book does as well.
It looks limey?
It’s kind of a greeny/blue irl :)
by Jessica Lantz on Aug 30, 2011 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions
It's hard to tell since you
appear very small on the camera. Weren’t you wearing that last game? Are you trying to avoid flying Shock colors?
I never wear shock colors
Unless you count plain black as a shock color. I try to be very neutral-ish whenever I cover any sports. And I don’t think this is what I was wearing – of course, I’ve done laundry since then, so maybe. All I know is it was clean :) lol
by Jessica Lantz on Aug 30, 2011 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Indiana leading Atlanta 49-46 at halftime.
Very close game all the way, neither team has been able to break it open. Fever shooting 50 percent but have turned it over 10 times.
Tulsa Shock shot clock violation.
I guess it is not Cambage’s call – the Shock seem to have a play where the center comes over and “posts” almost at the free throw line. Olajawon just did it too.
Shanna looking for Holt and Swoopes to
give them a spark. She says Holt has really come on strong the last few games. Announcer Mike says Ivory has had a few back to back games worthy of mention as well, and Shanna agrees.
She might end up on the bench
but it looks more like it will be because the Mercury are running away with it.
I just came home to find a note that my rent is going up astronomically
I hope that’s the only bad news I get tonight…
by Shannon Cotterell on Aug 30, 2011 8:39 PM EDT reply actions
Rents here are always outrageous.
My place has been a steal but they finally caught on. I’m bummed. I don’t want to have to move at all, but I’m not sure I can afford to stay here unless I get a new job,
by Shannon Cotterell on Aug 30, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Nov 1
Completely ruins my October travel plans, though. :(
by Shannon Cotterell on Aug 30, 2011 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Oooh Kayla
spin and scoop shot layup in the lane!
She’s got a fan who the Shanna/Mike microphone picks up who really cheers her when she does something good. "….. KAYLA!’
Announcer Mike
laments the lack of defense on Candice Duprees drive down the court to beat the end of the half (she didn’t make it). Shanna says “The energy and intensity is just not there”.
Hi. I hate computers.
So there’s no replay available for the last shot, so it’s no basket
Phx is up 51-30. Here are my observations: DeWanna Bonner needs to eat, the Shock need to start guarding her on the long range bombs, and DT has a more sailor-like mouth than I do.
Bonner is rail thin in her limbs
but has some pretty good strength I think, because I have seen her hold her ground in the paint before. She might have some junk in the trunk as well.
No, she needs to eat.
She is not healthy at that weight. It’s disturbing.
by Shannon Cotterell on Aug 30, 2011 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Her legs.
I just can’t stop staring. I feel like I’m seeing a “Feed the Children” commercial.
by Jessica Lantz on Aug 30, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Even in her warmups, I cringe to look at her legs.
even these ladies look better than Dewanna if you know what I mean…
I'm still shocked
Kia Vaughn didn’t snap Bonner’s arm in half when they got tangled up last week when the Liberty played in Phoenix. They called the injury a “bruised elbow” but with the weight difference I really thought she’d snapped her arm. She’s disturbingly thin.
Atlanta's injury luck has been impressively bad this season
Every time they get in a groove someone else seems to get hurt. Hope Erika is okay.
CHESSE CURDS!!!!
We can send some to Bonner.
by Shannon Cotterell on Aug 30, 2011 9:06 PM EDT reply actions
Tulsa/Phx halftime stats
Well DeWanna Bonner and her bird frame has 21 points…she’s 4-of-5 from three (7-of-9 overall); DT and her sailor mouth have 11 points.
For Tulsa, Amber Holt has 11. The Shock are shooting 28.1% compared to the Merc’s 66.7%. I guess they got all that good shooting out of their system Sunday against Connecticut.
Shanna's shout outs
- Chery Berry in Tulsa
- her couch (gonna be watching a lot of football this weekend)
- Marie Ferdinand-Harris’s pocohontas braid
- Jade (happy birthday to a college friend)
She does shout outs?
LOL – that’s funny :)
by Jessica Lantz on Aug 30, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I think
They used it all up Sunday…that game was way different, in the movement department
by Jessica Lantz on Aug 30, 2011 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Cambage in. And so is Krystal Thomas.
“Here we go. You got these two duking it out again’. – Shanna. That’s why I love her. No other color commentator in the league would say “You got these two duking it out again.”
The Big Beige?
Somehow “beige” does not begin to describe our Liz. The Big Vermilion? The Big Fuchsia? The Big Indigo?
lindsay: just another day at the office.
by thewiz06 on Aug 30, 2011 9:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
By the way
apparently Whalen has learned how to hit from three this year. She is at .436. Her career average is .276.
Shannon, you may have hit on
the meaning of life itself.
There is an autograph/picture table set up.
Candace Wiggins, Siemone Augustus, Lindsay Whalen, Nicole Powell, and Rebecca Brunson are signing. You are told that due to time constraints you are only allowed to get an autograph/picture with one of the players. Which one do you choose?
Wiggins article:
http://www.sportspagemagazine.com/content/bb/wp-bb/art-wp-bb/humility-before-honor-for-lynx-wiggins-2.shtml?48422
Oh, then you'd have to include a lot more people.
by Shannon Cotterell on Aug 31, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I almost included
Appel, Pedersen and Pohlen, but I was under the impression they were second tier. (Festival only open to active WNBA players).
Do not confuse WNBA fandom with Cardinal fandom
Those PLAYERS are NOT “second tier”. They’re still Stanford players, and among my favorites all-time.
However, they simply don’t currently play for one of my 2 favorite WNBA teams.
This is not a case where I picked 2 favorite WNBA teams based on my 2 favorite Stanford players, and the other players are “second tier” and that’s why I’m not as big of a fan of their teams. This is a case where I have 2 favorite WNBA teams that happen to have Stanford players on them and that’s a nice bonus.
I do want to see Jayne, Jeannette, and Kayla be successful, and that’s why I have a secondary interest in their teams. If Wiggins went to Atlanta, or Nicole went to DC, I’d have a secondary interest in those teams then as well, but I’d still be a Lynx/Liberty fan.
by Shannon Cotterell on Aug 31, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
you would also hope that Nicole wouldn't kill herself in DC
because of the dysfunction with the WNBA team while seeing the meticulous and well oiled machines in the NBA and NHL teams..
Are you asking me?
Um, yeah, why is Powell there at the Lynx team signing? ;)
And I choose Wiggins simply because she’s most likely to remember me and have a connection.
by Shannon Cotterell on Aug 31, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Whoa!
They just ran an screen on an inbounds play FOR Cambage and she got it and made it in front of the basket.
Crazy huh??
Who knew that would WORK?? Ha
by Jessica Lantz on Aug 30, 2011 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Cambage gets
burned by Krystal, but then comes down and aggressively establishes position right under the basket. She misses, but gets the board and is fouled by Dupree’s help defense and gets the and one.
Lizzie
Keeps shaking her head at the refs…they are really letting Krystal Thomas ride her like crazy
HAHAHAHA
Um. That’d be Corey Gaines!!!
by Jessica Lantz on Aug 30, 2011 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Hello folks
Looks like Phoenix was not caught sleeping tonight against Tulsa tonight….
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*L.A. hangs their heads and hides in the corner.... *
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Connecticut licked their lips
Were joking on the plane about how easy it would be to get in and out… didn’t work out so well for em.
by Jessica Lantz on Aug 30, 2011 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Amber Holt's boyfriend
Was on their flight and actually sat in a player row. LOL
by Jessica Lantz on Aug 30, 2011 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Is this Holt's boyfriend sitting next to James Dolan?
by ttdomi on Aug 30, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!
I have to rec that one!
You know it’s Magic and Ted.chilling during last year’s Rockets game, which was on Asian American appreciation night which was:
1. Watched by hundreds of millions of people, mostly in China because Yao Ming was playing Yi Jianlian.
2. John Wall had a triple double!
3. It was Ming’s last ever NBA game unfortunately.
ON THE PLANE
He sat in a Sun player row on the plane and they were talking mad ish!
by Jessica Lantz on Aug 31, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Hahaha – I thought maybe it was something like that :) He flew in to visit for the week & is also going to go to Atlanta with them (he lives in Mississippi)
by Jessica Lantz on Aug 31, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
A lot of it is
Tulsa shooting woes though. They’re getting lots of looks, missing lots of shots. But I do think Phx has been very aggressive, guess they want to clinch playoffs tonight…
by Jessica Lantz on Aug 30, 2011 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Cambage misses from point blank range.
“She’s getting some unbelievable position though” Shanna
“Why does the player guarding Taurasi always feel like they got in a car accident after the game?” Shanna
Somebody just yelled
“Taurasi you crybaby!” and then someone else yelled “Taurasi’s a crybaby!”
I wish I was sitting with them to join in.
by ttdomi on Aug 30, 2011 9:32 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
I guess what Diana went through was a warm up for tonight...
The ultimate crybaby is this POS who dares show up in Baltimore tonight for a proam….
and I still have this shirt!!!!
Oh, hell and damnation!
LiveAccess is suddenly delivering some football game instead of Indiana and Atlanta, who are tied at 77! This is downright wicked.
Dream up 79-77.
Price hit four straight FT. Zellous got a Flagrant #1.
by James Bowman on Aug 30, 2011 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank you, James,
and good going, Armintie.
Hard to know who to root for, since I like both teams. This is sort of a relief, I suppose.
No 3rd quarter of doom for Tulsa
as they outscored Phoenix by one.
But they did have a first half of doom so it’s all for naught.
I don't care
I don’t at all.
Not even a little bit.
DO YOU HEAR ME UNIVERSE?! I DON’T CARE!
by Shannon Cotterell on Aug 30, 2011 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Career-high watch
She has 16 points…needs 24 to tie her CH…. 8:33 to get em in…
by Jessica Lantz on Aug 30, 2011 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Um.
She has 5 fouls now. Guess you can stop watching for that. LOL
by Jessica Lantz on Aug 30, 2011 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
My theory
Probably just a coincidence but the Fever/Dream game is being broatcast on directv channel 649, while the football game liveaccess switched too is on directv channel 694. I’d imagine they don’t get their feed in any way from directv, but it’s quite a coincidence that it changed to a game on a channel with the same three numbers.
Either way this is the most frustrating live access fail of the year. Well played, critical game, with Angel going for 30, and maybe 10 players scoring in double digits. Quite a game to miss.
I went to the grocery store and came back
now 62-42 Minny with most of the 4th quarter left… what the hell is this?
For Minnesota, the team that was Julie's last home....
it’s only fitting they whooped us both times this year, right?
Sanford is a half-assed Cambager
She does them both but if one falls, she doesn’t readjust.
by ttdomi on Aug 30, 2011 9:41 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Shove on the Shock
on Amber Holt and the crowd let’s the refs hear it.
“She’s getting pushed around like a pinball in there. Taurasi shoves her and the fouls on her”. Shanna
"When Liz is agreessive as she has been today, it
calls so many problems. They aren’t used to trying to guard someone of that size". Shanna
Jessica Adair
Paraphrased: “She is going to make herself into one hell of a player.” ~Alan Horton
- approx 60 lbs. + an extra dose of badass.
Before:
After:
The…arms…so…jealous…
That’s a lot of work.
by Shannon Cotterell on Aug 30, 2011 9:46 PM EDT reply actions
Are you asking
which arms look better on a woman or which arms as a dude I would rather have. The answer to the second is definitely Maya, and to the first,
Speaking as a straight woman,
they both look pretty damned good.
And then there’s Lisa L., so elegant, so doe-eyed—then you see those mighty granite-tombstone shoulders in an evening gown, and think (or, at least, I think), “I would never mess with that woman.”
Film does not even begin to do Lisa justice
She’s even more jaw-dropping in person, if you can believe that.
by Shannon Cotterell on Aug 31, 2011 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Give her a couple more years as a pro
With Moore’s work ethic no doubt she’s going to put in lots of time and look even more amazing.
by Shannon Cotterell on Aug 30, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow.
Pedersen lobbed a pass into Cambage but while Cambage caught it her momentum was taking her under the basket and she turned and threw it away.
But good idea – I like the idea of aggressively getting it down to Cambage but lobbing it in such a way that only her 6’8" can get to it.
I think Kayla
Has been good (for the most part) at doing that this year…some of the girls don’t give it enough loft to work right
by Jessica Lantz on Aug 30, 2011 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I remember one throw away
where the announcer commented that Katie Smith intercepted the pass to Cambage because it was thrown “chest high” by Lacy.
Pedersen hits a shot clock expiring desperation
Jimmer three. “Good rhythm there. I knew that one was down as soon as she shot it” Announcer Mike
I am tired of seeing blow outs with the knee high black socks.
Time to change that look up Shockies.
SAS 72 Connecticut 59 3:30 left
Am I the only one watching this game? Did anybody else see Becky Hammon score her 5000th point. Pretty awesome for an undrafted player.
Jessica Adair TOTALLY CAREER HIGHED the Mystics
It;s the arms.
by Shannon Cotterell on Aug 30, 2011 9:57 PM EDT reply actions
SAS Playoffs
Went to a meet and greet for Big-12 alums after Sunday’s loss to the Lynx. DA, Sophia, Jia, and DRob. DA and Sophia both guaranteed they would make the playoffs.
I think with DA back in action that's very possible...
LA really blew a couple of chances there recently
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by Nate Parham on Aug 30, 2011 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
JUMP ON IT!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCFRJEjM3fc
If I ever get to watch the Lynx at home, I’m totally running onto the court at the end of the game and dancing with them (and probably getting thrown out).
by Shannon Cotterell on Aug 30, 2011 10:02 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah the team spaces out on the floor more now it looks like
and they get fans out of the stands. It’s often hard to tell on TV how many are participating. I think we always see Houston, Wiggins, and Moore (who looks totally embarrassed and does it anyway. Good on you, Maya!), but I think who else participates rotates a bit from week to week. Def looked like most of the team tonight.
by Shannon Cotterell on Aug 30, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
The last game I saw where they
gave us a little clip of them dancing they were only a few of them and they were spread out around the floor, not at center court. Wiggins wasn’t that far from the sideline. Might be doable in that situation.
Becky Hammon
7th player in WNBA history to reach 5000 points. Go Becky.
Defintely love Hammon's game
Congrats to her…and the Hammonites :)
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by Nate Parham on Aug 30, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd like to think that the two Whalenites in existence that I know of have extra special powers
But I’m not sure that’s true…
The pair of Whalenites might end up having to fall on their swords after being surrounded by the mob.
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Don't forget, we have the entire Golden Gopher nation on our side!
Also, I bet many of the Hammonites defected once Becky gained Russian citizenship. Don’t forget how badly people flat-out freaked out over that.
by Shannon Cotterell on Aug 31, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
That's a good point.
A sad one… but good nonetheless…
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Definitely sad
I really can’t blame Becky. All blame on USA Basketball for that fiasco.
by Shannon Cotterell on Sep 1, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
well, with more american players with dual citizenship we are already seeing more good american players
playing for other countries, but they are citizens of those countries as well…
"It gets pretty physical when these two teams get together"
“And oh by the way, we’ve got two of the best point guards in the league going at it tonight”.
I would clear out and post up Penichero on Bird all night long.
They did it a few times last game
But I think then the easy solution would be for the Storm to stick Wright on her and go with Bird on Toliver…assuming that’s the lineup since Quinn hardly plays all of a sudden…
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by Nate Parham on Aug 30, 2011 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
If I was LA, I would be happy with that switch, and then
clear out for Toliver. I am not impressed with Bird on defense.
Certainly not disagreeing.
I just haven’t seen Toliver operate in the post much either
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by Nate Parham on Aug 30, 2011 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Odds that Ticha Penicheiro gets 10 boards again?
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Touche
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by Nate Parham on Aug 30, 2011 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Rooting interests anyone?
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I like Seattle as a team
but in a way it is in my interest to see the Storm lose all the rest of their games to improve draft positioning for the Mystics.
Good point.
lol
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by Nate Parham on Aug 30, 2011 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
we'll probably screw up on the pick anyway or a generational player will be taken
right before we can pick one.
Like in 2002, we just missed on Bird or Cash or 2004 when we missed out on Taurasi. Things like that can curse a franchise big time.
1 play, 1 turnover
100% turnover percentage for the Storm.
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Sparks return the favor...
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by Nate Parham on Aug 30, 2011 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Whoa
pretty reverse layup by Ticha Penicherio. Color announcer points out that she used to always look to pass in those situations but is now taking shots.
She's secretly been a dominant scorer all these years
But was just going easy on everyone since she already got a ring.
That’s the only answer.
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by Nate Parham on Aug 30, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
The Sparks look like a legit playoff team tonight.
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I think the Lynx would match up well with most...
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by Nate Parham on Aug 30, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I picked them last year :)
So yes :)
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by Nate Parham on Aug 30, 2011 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
It is hard for me to root for either team
since I am don’t want either Smith or McWilliams-Franklin to get another championship via free agent movement or trade demand. But I guess I would go with the Lynx to get a championship for Whalen and Augustus.
In 10 years,
either the Russian women’s pro leagues are the best in the world or the WNBA will be paying more.
I think it is reversing since
they assasinated one of the owners. The bidding war for WNBA players has lessened. Taurasi starting playing in Turkey.
true, von kalmanovich got killed
but the stars still getting paid more there than here in the states. I’m shocked that the European teams haven’t pulled off something like the Chinese Basketball Association is doing to NBA players who are considering playing overseas because of the lockout.
Tell the WNBA players, we will quintuple any WNBA salary you have, but you now can’t play in the WNBA.
I am not a person that thinks the league needs
the stars to survive – in the sense that people need to see “more athleticism” from the players. But it would hurt in that there would be a sense of loss if they left.
But there doesn’t seem to be much danger of Europe stealing WNBA players as they have been paying higher salaries for the entire history of the league.
it's the sentimental value of the American players wanting to play here in their own country.
Sure, there’s something to be said there, but the WNBA is pretty established now, just like the MLS. Our best soccer players don’t play here because the MLS pay is paltry compared with Europe, so they play in Europe. The WNBA players also could be in that same boat and I think they should be in the sense that they should go to where they can get the best buck for their services.
Nate thinks that the WNBA players will continue to be selfless, but like LeBron reminded us last year, money talks. Eventually the players just don’t wanna play year round. We here in the states think of the European leagues as a warm up and gearing up their games for the next WNBA season. I think in the next few years, it will be the opposite. If WNBA players continue to play year round, the WNBA will be like the pro am is for NBA players right now. They will use the WNBA season to warm up and fine tune their games for the winter when the bucks are better, especially for the stars.
Why would they
eventually decide they don’t want to play year round? They’ve been doing it for 15 years.
The other thing is that these women
were playing year round since they were girls. Playing basketball is their thing.
same goes with the boys
but for NBA players at least when they’re in pro am in the summer, they aren’t really playing as intensely as they would during regular season and postseason games, instead they tend to focus on weaknesses and fine tune their games. I can see the WNBA season becoming like that for players who play in Euroleague.
The women in theory have to play 100% every game to keep their paychecks and no offseason unless you are a Top 5 player.
younger generations of players
sure they grow up watching the WNBA but they realize that the WNBA pay is not as good as overseas. Again, this applies to the bst players.
What will you create at am/pm?
Someone in the commercial put eggs and sausage and cheese in between glazed donut halves.
Pushing her book
“Happy accidents”. She played in high school but wasn’t very good. Was recruited “out of the hall” by the coach.
Sue Bird
a huge Katie Smith fan. Says that she told them for five years in a row during the exit interview “Get Katie Smith”.
Oddly enough
the finally get her through a trade that Smith forced, rather than signing Smith as a free agent??
Lauren Jackson t'd up.
“So she’ll get a few bucks out of the wallet”.
Storm championship ring resembles the inside of Key Arena???
I don't know.
They never refer to it as a replica. And they use the term “fan ring”.
And they say "The arena portion of the ring presents the iconic Storm “S” surrounded by the 2010 championship…."
Which to me means they replaced the arena portion with an S.
The Storm just have to weather this
The Sparks are playing outstanding basketball at this point….
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Instead they're jacking jumpers....
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by Nate Parham on Aug 30, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
They just pointed out how
Willingham started in Phoenix but signed with Seattle knowing she would come off the bench. Which just shows how tough it will be for Tulsa. Free agents want to sign with winners and are happy to sacrifice playing time to play for a winner.
Not sure about their AA population as a percentage of the general population
but AA look to be a majority of the fans in the stands.
Officially it is 10.4% for the metro area.
and that doesn’t account for Asian Hispanics (an American example would be Wallace Loh, the President of the University of Maryland at College Park.
That's very true
Certain cities are very dominantly made up of people of Asian ancestry. See Monterey Park for example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monterey_Park,_California#Demographics
by Shannon Cotterell on Aug 31, 2011 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Jenna O'Hea pre-game interview showing at
halftime. She had some interviews at the World Championships. Liked the fact that Sandy Brondello was there and liked LA as a place to live.
Jackson took her under her wing at the World Championships and taught her the international game.
Jenna won the Aussie title with Liz Cambage on the Bulleen Boomers.
Staples Center really is in the
downtown LA area. I thought they had built it near the old Lakers Forum.
Nope, it's smack downtown.
And a total PITA to get to…
by Shannon Cotterell on Aug 31, 2011 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, yeah, we've been hearing that since 1995.
I’ll believe it when I see it.
by Shannon Cotterell on Aug 31, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Jackson signed a new three year deal.
And they have to count her salary towards their salary cap even if she isn’t playing due to Australian National Team commitments. Which is funny since I assume they are not paying her when she is not with the team.
The Storm are still in this game...
But it feels like they’re down 20
The Sparks should be up a whole lot more than they are.
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Wow, the LA color announcer
Krista Blunk just said that Tulsa has a lot of talent on their roster. Well they don’t have any all-stars which to me would be a requirement for raving about the talent.
Jessica will be somewhat happy with tonight's second marquee basketball game of the summer
Kevin Durant dropped 59 points at Morgan State University, but his Goodman League couldn’t beat the Melo League, losing 149-141 earlier tonight
LeBoob had 32 points. He got help from Chris Paul and Carmelo Anthony who did the real work.
hosted by the Melo league.
it is an amateur league run by Carmelo Anthony. NBA players can play in it but they aren’t paid for it.
Morgan State is an HBCU in Baltimore. Plays in the MEAC. Their basketball coach, Todd Bozeman was a young rising star at Berkeley a while back, but NCAA violations screwed him.
Your hatred of LeBron cracks me up
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by Nate Parham on Aug 30, 2011 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Katie Smith majored in Zoology at Ohio State
and always said she wanted to be a dentist because her dad was a dentist.
I try to pretend she didn't attend that institution
But for some reason it’s been a big story lately.
I thought StormBasketball said she wanted to be a nutritionist.. is she playing with people?
(Go Blue)
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by Nate Parham on Aug 30, 2011 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes.
I was referring to the dentist part – hadn’t heard that.
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by Nate Parham on Aug 31, 2011 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
We used to hear it a lot...like...every game a lot.
I think that’s why everyone stopped talking about it. “STOP TALKING ABOUT IT! SHE’S PLAYING PRO BASKETBALL NOW!”
by Shannon Cotterell on Aug 31, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually, there was a really funny scene on the Lynx many years ago...
…where Kate Paye broke her tooth during a game, and then you see Katie totally checking the tooth out while they are both sitting on the bench.
by Shannon Cotterell on Aug 31, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Ya know, there's been good talent around at that spot in the last 2 yrs
Not mindblowing, but starter-caliber players have been available there.
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by Nate Parham on Aug 30, 2011 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Like one year we passed on Katie Douglas in 2001..
but still, I just feel like our team has been screwed over by the organization and also because a draft pick in crucial years didn’t go our way like 2002, 2004, and 2009 which have been the big ones. Yes we got a good player all those years, but they weren’t as generational as those before them and those earlier picks were expected to be huge anyway.
Lauren Jackson just pushed
Noelle Quinn out of bounds so she couldn’t chase Katie Smith over to the corner. But Smith missed the shot anyway.
If Seattle wants to win
they need to take it to the rack again and again.
And on that note, I’m going to bed. Good night all.
Night
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by Nate Parham on Aug 31, 2011 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
The announcer likes
Ashley Robinson’s posture. Thinks it may be the best in the WNBA. Color commentator thinks she is taller than 6’4" and says it is tought to keep your shoulders back when you are that tall.
This is still a 6 point game...
LJ has to play… picking up this win would be a gift….
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Whoa,
Parker with a left hand fade-away that looked like a desperation heave but she gets the and one.
Announcer says that Annie Meyers-Dreysdale said with regard to Parker “That left hand. That left hand is just amazing.”
Watching Parker in pre-game warm-ups is amazzing
She can shoot mid-range j’s with ease left handed…
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by Nate Parham on Aug 31, 2011 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh Ticha!
Rebounds the ball and misses from point blank. Too nervous it was gonna get blocked I guess. But Sparks get the ball back.
It looks like the Staples center has three levels of box seats.
I am waiting for the arena that puts the box seats at court/field level.
Ugh, Toliver with a miss from three.
Cash with a miss. Bird fouls Ticha. She is 90% this year, tops on the team.
Wow, that was amazing.
Sparks almost threw the ball away in the backcourt – Parker ran it down almost to the Seattle baseline, and then was triple teamed bringing the ball back and they called a foul on Seattle.
The Sparks have done everything in their power to give the Storm a shot to clinch
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by Nate Parham on Aug 31, 2011 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Candace Parker and daughter posing for pictures with
Jane Lynch after the game. Lynch is right there with Parker height wise. Don’t know her heal situation but I from the bad angle she even looked taller.
Jane Lynch is listed at 6'
Was she wearing heels?
by Shannon Cotterell on Aug 31, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Doesn't look like she was wearing heels, but you are right - Parker is taller
I was looking at this picture thinking Lynch was taller:
Just not a good game for the Storm
They played even, but barely and never found a way to really gain ground.
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