Top 15 WNBA Players Of All Time List Announced: A First Look At A Guard-Heavy List
The WNBA has announced its Top 15 WNBA Players of All Time during today's 2011 WNBA All-Star game, including all eight of the players we considered "locks" based on James Bowman's Hall of Fame probability calculator.
After that top 8 players that we had as locks, the next four were also on our list. However, as you can tell, the bottom three on the following list weren't on our original statistical list and might be the ones subject to the most debate.
| Name | WNBA Teams | WNBA Hall of Fame Probability |
| Lisa Leslie | Los Angeles Sparks (1997-2006, 2008-2009) | 100% |
| Lauren Jackson | Seattle Storm (2001-Current) | 100% |
| Cynthia Cooper | Houston Comets (1997-2000, 2003) | 100% |
| Sheryl Swoopes |
Tulsa Shock (Current) |
100% |
| Tamika Catchings | Indiana Fever (2002-Current) | 100% |
| Diana Taurasi | Phoenix Mercury (2004-Current) | 100% |
| Tina Thompson | Los Angeles Sparks (2009-Current) Houston Comets (1997-2008) |
100% |
| Yolanda Griffith | Indiana Fever (2009) Seattle Storm (2008) Sacramento Monarchs (1999-2007) |
100% |
| Cappie Pondexter | New York Liberty (2010-Current) Phoenix Mercury (2006-2009) |
100% |
| Sue Bird | Seattle Storm (2002-Current) |
99% |
| Becky Hammon | San Antonio Silver Stars (07-Current) New York Liberty (1999-2006) |
96% |
| Katie Smith | Seattle Storm (Current) Minnesota Lynx (1999-2005) Detroit Shock (2005-2009) Washington Mystics (2010) |
64% |
| Teresa Weatherspoon | Los Angeles Sparks (2004) New York Liberty (1997-2003) |
17% |
| Dawn Staley | Houston Comets (2006-2006) Charlotte Sting (1999-2005) |
1% |
| Ticha Penicheiro | Los Angeles Sparks (2010-Current) Sacramento Monarchs (1998-2009) |
1% |
List of Top 15 WNBA Players in order of the HOF Probability calculator ratings.
It's no coincidence that all three of those not on our list were point guards, the toughest position to evaluate statistically.
In a way, the list confirms the value of the point guard in the WNBA - although there are other players who have definitely put up better stats, it's a league that's far more predicated on ball movement and that begins with the point guard spot.
"I don't know where to begin. To be voted as one of the Top 15 Players of All Time leaves me speechless. I have an overwhelming feeling of joy and appreciation," said Weatherspoon in a WNBA release. "It tells me my hard work didn't go unnoticed, and to be voted in by the fans makes it even more special to me. The fans are the people I played before each and every night. All I can say is thank you!"
So with ball handlers dominating the list moreso than anything else, a brief look at those three that didn't make oiur original statistical list.
Teresa Weatherspoon, PG
Career stats: 5.0 ppg, 5.3 apg, 3.1 rpg
Key accolades: Two defensive player of the year awards (1997, 1998), four All-WNBA Second Team selections (1997-2000), third all-time career assists per game (5.3).
There's really no point in talking about stats with Weatherspoon - her presence on the court was probably impossible to quantify, as described so well in Queenie's New York Liberty Ring of Honor retrospective about Weatherspoon.
But if you're looking for that one concrete argument for Weatherspoon's inclusion on the list, it's undoubtedly her desperation heave in Game 2 of the 1999 WNBA Finals. It remains among the most iconic moments in WNBA history and probably among the most recognizable WNBA moments among mainstream sports fans. Weatherspoon was one of three players to get promoted from honorable mention on the 2006 WNBA All-Decade Team to the Top 15 now, along with Penicheiro.
Ticha Penicheiro, PG
Career stats: 6.3 ppg, 6.0 apg, 3.4 rpg
Key accolades: Three All-WNBA selections (1999-2001); 2008 WNBA All-Defensive Team; #1 in career assists (2398), assists per game (6.0), and assist percentage (35.0%); 7th in career steals per game (1.8).
I've described my admiration for Penicheiro's game so many times, that I won't belabor the point here. But I'll summarize how I perceive her legacy by saying this: Penicheiro might be the best passer the WNBA has ever seen, not just in making passes but in manipulating the defense to get them to shift in ways that turn passes into assists without the threat of a jumper. It's really quite remarkable to witness her at work. If you don't buy "best passer" technically, then it's hard to deny that there are few more efficient passers statistically, particularly given her longevity in the league. That's punctuated by her being by far the most efficient distributor last year with the Sparks when some people assumed she was washed up, especially after an early-season injury.
But off the court, Luis Cristovao did an outstanding job describing Ticha Penicheiro's impact on Portugal and in terms of her impact on the worldwide growth of women's basketball, that's worth
As the individual who's done that one thing - and something vital to any basketball team - the best in the history of this league, it's very difficult to leave Penicheiro off this list.
Dawn Staley, PG
Career stats: 8.5 ppg, 5.1 apg, 2.0 rpg
Key accolades: Top five all time in career assists (1337), assists per game (5.1), and assist percentage (31.2%); 2006 All-Decade Team
As every other member of the 2006 All-Decade team made the list, perhaps Staley was a lock despite what the fancy "Hall of Fame probability" stats say. Staley was one of the best ball handlers the league has seen, has the WNBA Community Leadership Award named after her, and is quite easily among the most recognizable figures in women's basketball.
Of course, people can and will quibble with this list and there will certainly be discussion about snubs or players who might be considered a "stretch" to make this list.
But for now, we just appreciate the accomplishments of those that have made it.
Note: All statistics and statistical rankings are as of 2010, the numbers which probably figured into player nominations and the majority of voting decisions.
Related Links:
Top 15 WNBA Players Of All Time: The Hall Of Fame Probability Calculator List
Top 15 WNBA Players Of All Time: Who Were The Top Players Excluded From The List Of 30 Nominees?
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glad to see
some voters had some sense and didn’t vote in Parker. That would’ve been a travesty and given WNBA haters more fuel for saying the league is a joke. It was a joke for her to be even nominated for the top 30 in the first place.
However, I don’t think Hammon should have been on the list. That’s where the fan “popularity vote” reared its ugly head. Swin Cash has done much more than Hammon in her career, both on and off the court (like her “Cash for Kids” foundation).
I agree. I also have my doubts about Pondexter’s inclusion. She’s a great player, but the top 15? Maybe the top 20 in another 5 years.
Any ideas about who you'd put in instead of Pondexter?
I’m actually surprised the stats favor her so heavily….
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I'm another Deanna Nolan fan.
Her stats and achievements, especially playoff, would seem to merit inclusion. I really miss Tweety.
(And BearBloke says, “Penny! Penny! Do I make myself clear? Penny Effing Taylor!”)
This site might become the Penny Taylor fan club :)
What she does on the floor is remarkable and, this year, she’s playing better than usual.
Hopefully she at least gets some MVP votes this season…and I’m sure that outstanding backup guard from Cal will help her…somehow… ok well maybe not… but go Gray-Lawson anyway. :)
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Cappie Pondexter is, arguably, the Best player in the league. Ask yourself why you really question her omission? I don’t even have to post her resume.. D.T fan club are we??
by Larry Orlando on Jul 25, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm conflicted about Candace Parker
I agree she probably isn’t one of the top 15 players in an objective sense.
But purely personally I think she probably does belong in the top 30: she’s the #1 reason I started paying attention to the WNBA seriously, and I’m quite sure I’m not the only NBA fan for whom that is true. Her presence in the league alone has helped raise visibility, she is the only active player some people know, and we can’t deny the talent.
If one of the criteria is growth/expansion of the game, I think we can say Parker has a case to be on the conversation. But she’ll have to wait until the next go round (20, 25, 30?) to be considered a finalist.
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@ Nate, CP3 was nominated and I think it was fair only because she was the only rookie of the year and MVP in the same year. People say she didnt deserve it but she did. She was incredible that year: 18.5ppg, 9.5rpg, like 3asst, and 2bls, and her team almost went to the finals.
by Larry Orlando on Jul 25, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
sounds like somebody is a Swin Cash fan… news flash, cash benefitted from some of the greatest players in the world: Ford, Nolan (who ironically were left off the list), and L. Jackson. you know in your heart becky deserves it but, for what ever reason, you just want to differ. And what the *bleep does Cash for kids have to do with anything… FYI: becky has done LOTS of charitable work. Swin Cash did NOT deserve to be on that list, especially if Nolan was left off. Becky carried and helped the Silver stars over achieve, especially in 2007. you better go somewhere with that jealousy
by Larry Orlando on Jul 25, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Deanna Nolan
I wonder how much her being out of the league impacted her exclusion. Five times she’s been All-WNBA (two first team nods) and All-Defensive (once first team); she has three championships, a Finals MVP, and has served nine years in the league. Her regular-season stats aren’t great, but she’s averaged 18.1 points, 4.4 rebounds and 3.4 assists in 48 career playoff games.
I completely agree..
In fact, when we posted our first list, I didn’t even consider the possibility of her being left out.
She was easily among the most athletic players and potent scorers the league has ever seen.
All I can say to justify it is that Nolan (perhaps similar to Swin Cash?) did a lot really well but didn’t have the standout portfolio as you mention. And if this is any barometer, I had never heard of her before paying attention to the league closely.
I was surprised you didn’t mention Penny Taylor, who I believe was on your list. :)
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Penny Taylor
I can’t say I’m surprised she was left out. PT’s always been in someone else’s shadow, and she’s missed significant time because of national team commitments (14 games in 2006, all of 2008, and 20 games in 2009).
Statistically, of course, Penny Taylor should have been an easy selection. She’s one of only eight players that are top 15 in PER, Win Shares, and WS per 48 minutes. The other seven — Cynthia Cooper, Lauren Jackson, Tamika Catchings, Yolanda Griffith, Diana Taurasi, Lisa Leslie, and Sheryl Swoopes — are included in the WNBA’s top 15.
Has Deanna Nolan ever been on the
National Team or a candidate for the National Team? Seems like she should have been but I don’t remember her ever being in the mix. And yet I see Renee Montgomery in there.
Looks like Nolan was on the national team in 2004:
http://www.usabasketball.com/womens/women_alpha_N.html
Chamique Holdsclaw
am i the only one outraged at her exclusion <> i would have nolan on my list as well
Wow, forgot about her.
Just the other day with respect to some player (I think Fowles) they said that she has the chance to become the second player to average a double double after Chamique Holdsclaw.
I think she should have been on there.
She had the problem in that she was good enough to carry good teams to the playoffs, at least half the time, which would ultimately hurt them since it took them out of the lottery, but they weren’t good enough to do well in the playoffs.
Good point.
I’ve also noticed that Chamique raises some hackles among fans (not me, though!) because of her time off due to clinical depression, team changes, etc.
Anyway, the 15-years-15-players concept is cute, but 15? That’s just insufficient.
I bet the team changes were related
to the depression. Which ultimately means none of that should be held against her in my book.
One unwritten rule about the Top 15 list was that
any player who played for the Mystics for longer than one season has been disqualified!
by thewiz06 on Jul 23, 2011 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ha
It would be funny to figure out the top de facto exclusion criteria… :)
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Perceived backstabbing never ends well
Which is probably why Nolan and Holdsclaw will never be recognized for anything ever by the WNBA. Tweety turned her back and Holdsclaw… um… er… has issues that have resulted in her being somewhat less reliable than a ten-day forecast.
Also, can I admit I LOL’d at the plaque. It’s a freakin’ commemorative plate!
I am the victim of a basketball jones.
Becky Hammon: She very much deserves it
Anybody that feels that Becky Hammon should have been left off of that list should take a long look in the mirror as to why they justify her omission. Yes this league is guilty of having favorites and so are you. I will not tarnish anyone else’s Resume, but I did feel there was one on there that made me go hmm… it was not Becky.
First of all, Even if you only took into account what she did for San Antonio, she would deserve. She came here, at age 30, and helped an 11 win team turn into contenders. She finished 4th in scoring, 1st in assist, while being second in MVP voting.
Then, she scored 35points in a game three meeting with the tough 2008 Sparks team. Hammon has been a leader, without a doubt, S.A has faced adversity, loosing both back up pg’s in the 2008 finals was a bad break, especially against the shock. Loosing Wauters, loosing Holdsclaw; both so abruptly. For better or worse getting the Stars to the playoffs ALL five seasons and, now, back to a winning record. the league may have its favorites, but some people beg to differ.
True fans of this league know that Hammon deserves it… btw, nolan should be here too
p.s anyone thinking Cappie is left off that list is kidding themselves and completely jealous or just plain old does not like her
Cappie Pondexter
Very much deserves it and it makes ya’ll look bias and hateful (you know why you do not want her on the list) that you think she does not deserve it.
This woman TAKES OVER games. 2007 finals MVP and don’t you forget it. it blows my mind that people cannot put personal feelings aside.
btw: why was whalen not even nominated!? she is very deserving.
WNBA All-Time Top 15 Players
Based on HOF probability statistics my pick of the best WNBA 5-member starting rotation of all time looks pretty good. Probably because they were very good and won several chanpionships.
Top starting 5 of all time playing for same team at same time
Houston Comets
Cynthia Cooper (100%), Tina Thompson (100%), Sheryl Swoopes (100%), Janeth Arcain (87%) and Kim Perrot (DNQ not enough games). Arcain most likely didn’t make the best 15 of all-time because she was overshadowed by the big three. In my opinion, Perrot is still among the greatest WNBA point guards of all time. If Perrot hadn’t died due to breast cancer at such an early age, I think she would have made the list.
That's a really cool exercise to do with those numbers (top teams of all-time)
Great point about Perrot – despite a shortened career, her probability still puts her in the top 30 (technically – I too DNQ’d her).
I wonder how that team might fare against Jackson (100%), Bird (99%), Cash (87%)…
or Nolan (88%), Smith (64%), Ford (51%), Taj (10%) or Cash (her percentage pre-Storm would be lower).
The reason I wonder is how the Comets would handle the combination of those dominant perimeter players along with the dominant interior presences of Ford (rebounding) or LJ…?
That could be a fun thing to play with…
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Comets vs. Today's Teams
Good point. Thompson and Swoopes are still playing which says something about their longevity and adaptability to a somewhat different game. Thompson and Swoopes were very good perimeter (as well as inside) shooters. Cooper wasn’t bad either. For that matter, Arcain was also a pretty good perimeter shooter. Thompson could rebound with anybody except maybe 6’8" Cambage although Thompson would have blocked out and outmuscled Cambage to some extent. As you know, that was the perceived weakness -no real Center. They played pretty good defense also. Although, they would probably have to play more one-on-one and less zone defense today with so many good perimeter shooters on every team.
There are a myriad of reasons I don't think Hammon deserves it......
But I don’t think you have to go any farther than her epic choke job in the 2008 Finals. The greatest players are supposed to do their best work in the biggest situations and the Shock just made her look awful. If you’re one of the top 15 players in the history of the league, you win that series for your team, you can’t be one of the biggest reasons they lost it.
I didn’t vote for Pondexter, but have no problems with her inclusion.
@amy22, no don’t stop name some reasons… or are we just in the business of name calling. I guess if becky had a “choke job” in the 2008 Finals then what about other players who never won a title, how about all those years that Catch finished second to Det, or how about staley, her teams only made the playoffs a hand full of times; did they “choke” too? should they be left off too? catchings has been with the same team, becky joined a loosing team at 30 and took them to the finals in a year…
hmmm, is loosing only “choking” Hammon carried an over achieving silver star in ’07 & ’08, her team lost both its guards; the shock doubled and trippled her for games 1 & 2, she was not the one who choked. becky carried her team all season and playoff long, she had no back up pg in the finals after tearing the sparks apart; the shock centered its defense to stop her. Your bias is glowing and showing sweetie. You cannot take away what she has accomplished, its really sad on your part. conversation over.
p.s check your stats sweetie cuz she only had one bad game (gm 3), her team mates did not step up, becky did her part.
The best thing about are great country is that we are all entitled to having an opinion; no matter how stupid it is, you still deserve a say.
by Larry Orlando on Jul 25, 2011 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I've changed my mind. This post made it totally worth Hammon being in the top 15.
Can’t type. Too busy laughing at being told my opinion is stupid by somebody who couldn’t spell “losing”. Or “overachieving”. Or Silver “Stars”. Or “tripled”. Or “teammates”. Or know the difference between “are” and “our”.
You win, man.
@AMY i would like to apologize. Your opinions are NOT stupid. That was really immature on my part.
by Larry Orlando on Jul 26, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
"The best thing about are great country is that we are all entitled to having an opinion; no matter how stupid it is, you still deserve a say."
Larry, your statement quoted above is entirely correct and your point on Hammon is certainly well-taken.
And, like you I assume, I think there’s nothing wrong with challenging the opinions of others and asking for some evidence.
But as I consider most of the people on this site to be fairly well-versed in the game of basketball – either women’s specifically or the various forms of the game more broadly – I think we can also strive to productively exchange opinions on the game without sacrificing civility (e.g. the use of the term “sweetie”/“honey” or suggesting someone’s opinion is stupid).
But as you suggest, since we’ll likely never meet one another and words can be read as harsher than intended in electronic form, let’s try to stay as far as possible from making the exchange of opinions personal.
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by Nate Parham on Jul 25, 2011 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
My mistake
@ nate, you are right. I am sorry, it wasn’t even worth it. I get a little emotional when it comes to Becky, but I should have kept it civil and mature.
by Larry Orlando on Jul 25, 2011 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I actually like Hammon as well... :)
In fact, it’s been delayed, but I have her as one the top 3 pgs in the league this season and I think for all of the scoring she does, her ability as a facilitator is often underrated.
I take you’re a Silver Stars fan then too? :) Do you think they can keep up their pace this season (I’m just going to go ahead and dismiss the loss to the Storm when they didn’t show up)?
Also, welcome to the site.
P.S. Your comments posted at 7:02 and 7:04 have been hidden given that they seem to fit with your point above as “not even worth it”.
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by Nate Parham on Jul 25, 2011 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I am a Silver Stars fan but I have been a life long Liberty fan. I sort of followed Becky & VJ to S.A… I dread, and look forward to, the day that they meet in the finals: its a win/lost situation.
I think that they are competing well as a team and they have a better squad than last year; a lot will depend on Perkins and whether Adams & Robinson can keep up the good work. The storm loss, sadly, cannot be overlooked, it is classic Silver stars. They get passive and take the idea of “team” to far; there was serious over passing going on in that game and the storm gave it to em good
And I agree, Hammon does the scoring of a two guard, while dishing dimes with the best of them, thats why I get so mad lol I’ve been watching her play since I was 13.
by Larry Orlando on Jul 25, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
"The storm loss, sadly, cannot be overlooked, it is classic Silver stars."
That’s a fair point.
I think from a Storm point of view, there’s maybe not much to say about it… but you might be right about the Silver Stars…
I thought they had been handling the passive-from-too-much-talent problem better than Minnesota has generally… but you’re right about that game..
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Storm Victory over Stars
Nate,
Congrats on the Storm’s win over my Silver Stars last week. The Silver stars looked like a bad middle/high school team several times during the game. Some of that was trhe Storm’s aggressive presure defense; but, the Stars made way too many unforced turnovers. Also, Danielle Adams hurt her foort and didsn’t play much in the 2nd half. Since she played less than 8 minutes in the All-Star game, I think maybe her foot still wasn’t 100%. And, as you probably saw tonight, she had to be helped off the court with about 5 minutes remaining in the game not even being able to put any pressure on that same right foot.
Lee
Well put, Nate!
A major reason I prefer Swish Appeal to Rebkell is the courtesy, respect, and good humor I find here.
Thanks BearBint
We’re still working on less player hair and nose talk in game threads, but … baby steps… ;)
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