WNBA Open Thread: LA Sparks at San Antonio Silver Stars - 8 p.m. EST, NBA TV
by Jessica Lantz on Jul 12, 2011 7:23 PM EDT
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Who: Los Angeles at San Antonio
What: The Sparks take to the hardwood for the first time since their coaching change while the Silver Stars are looking to get their first win in July after dropping both ends of a home-and-home series with the New York Liberty to start the month.
Where: 8 p.m. EST, AT&T Center - San Antonio, Texas | TV: NBA TV | Internet: LiveAccess
The Story: WNBA.com preview | WNBA Sixth Woman: Top Six After Six Weeks - watch Danielle Adams (ranked #2) and Jia Perkins (#3) go against Kristi Tolliver (#5) and one of the W's best benches
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NBA Game Time provides a WNBA triva question
She entered kindergarten reading at a 4th grade level
a) Diana Taurasi
b) Kara Lawson
c) Sue Bird.
Bird?
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Ha -
Yeah, enough of that experiment! lol
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Do you have a rooting interest in this one?
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Yes.
The SilverStars are my second favorite team after Tulsa.
Sad thing though, after they canned Richardson I didn’t have the same enthusiasm for Tulsa on Sunday that I had before.
I really like the Stars this year...
I’ve always loved the play, but I love what Hughes is doing with the team too…
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And I’ve always enjoyed watching Hammon play.
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and to think…I still feel like she’s…ginormous.
by Jessica Lantz on Jul 12, 2011 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't say SASS is a "slow" starting team...
But they definitely take a while to find the right combo/matchups/hit their stride…
A lot of that is obviously Adams… but it’s an interesting thing to watch unfold game to game…
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Aaaahhhhh
Beautiful around-the-horn ball movement…
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Three point line
SASS a few possessions ago…
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Must give props to D Rob
as much as it hurts me to praise an OU player. But she’s inserted herself way faster – and better – than I expected…
Definitely...
I don’t think she’s more surprising than Adams, but I didn’t at all think she’d be able to run a team this well for so many mins…
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I was expecting San Antonio to be the
Western Conference lottery team but it looks like those two have made them contenders for the title.
danielle adams is playing very well once again....
safe to say she has a chip on her shoulder after all the talk about maya last several yrs
by thewiz06 on Jul 12, 2011 8:27 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I would like someone to note for the record...
…that I am not the one who started the hair talk tonight.
by Shannon Cotterell on Jul 12, 2011 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
You are eternally to blame.
You brought this curse upon our house!
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well i wonder how many of them
Had hairspray on their hair….. that was lame
by thewiz06 on Jul 12, 2011 9:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Who did I mention on here?
I remember bringing up Coleman…Hasn’t quite been a decade for her—she graduated in…’07 IIRC.
Now if I had a good reason to name drop Yvonne Gbalazeh, that’s a different story.
by Shannon Cotterell on Jul 12, 2011 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Duh, I was thinking about previous threads for some reason.
How smart am I feeling right now that I can’t even remember what I said a few minutes ago?
Or maybe I’m just in denial about Jam not being heard from in a decade. :(
Just for that I’m going to put on my Wideman Sparks jersey and pretend I can go back in time…
by Shannon Cotterell on Jul 12, 2011 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
That's because Stanford had years of players built up...
…who were still young enough to play, so they all dumped into the leagues at once. Didn’t hurt that former Stanford players helped put the ABL together, either.
Aside from The Dark Years, Stanford has pretty consistently sent 1-2 players to the pros every year.
(Now, actually sticking in the W…that’s another story.)
by Shannon Cotterell on Jul 12, 2011 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
There was one particular Stanford player
who seemed to have quite an appeal to many fans. Jennifer Azzi.
In fact, a SwishAppeal contributor recently posted
“unf, Jennifer Azzi”
You're so easily persuaded
Don’t let Shannon’s evil Stanford powers control you.
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I would also like to note for the record...
…that Natasha Lacy and her hair did not go to Stanford, and therefore my Stanford fandom is irrelevant to this discussion.
by Shannon Cotterell on Jul 12, 2011 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Absolutely
you won’t catch me flying Cardinal Red.
State school boy here. And that is in the NAME as well.
I am a public school kid, too.
However, I lost my basketball heart to Sonja Henning years ago. I thought I’d get over it, but even though she’s long gone, I just can’t quit Stanford WBB.
My alma mater’s greatest WBB achievement was making the NCAA tournament (once)…and promptly losing to Stanford in the first round. Irony is a cruel mistress.
by Shannon Cotterell on Jul 12, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions
OK
I see how Lieberman gave someone a 90 minute interview. She’s gonna end up chatting through the entirety of this period. Talky talkerton.
Am I the only person who wishes Leiberman would just GO AWAY
I lost what shreds of respect I still had left for her after the Jamila Wideman choking incident.
by Shannon Cotterell on Jul 12, 2011 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I bet
That story does not make her book on being a good competitor eh?
by Jessica Lantz on Jul 12, 2011 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think anyone will bet against you on that
If it does end up in there, I’m sure it will be spun so as to be unrecognizable.
by Shannon Cotterell on Jul 12, 2011 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe not "go away"
But she’s not afraid to promote herself…
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well i don't blame her...
Looks like she’s back for the legends this year.
by thewiz06 on Jul 12, 2011 8:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
OH Joe's over there animated!
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He looks like Kobe talking to his teammates.
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NBA TV is struggling today...
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You have to at least believe that Toler planned this change...
even if it was surprising…
I’m not clear what Tulsa’s plan is…
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I thought I heard Teresa say that
she was hired by Richardson.
I had assumed when I heard her title listed as “Director of Player Personnel” that she had been hired by the owners and that her job duties would include trades and such.
Richardson
did indeed hire her. Last year’s player personnel director didn’t really have much of a hand in … anything. The assistant coach duties weren’t even part of her initial job description…and here she is as head coach. I know some folks think this is what ownership planned…but because of things I see and hear, I just can’t hardly believe that.
by Jessica Lantz on Jul 12, 2011 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think Tulsa is clear of what Tulsa’s plan is. Unfortunately.
by Jessica Lantz on Jul 12, 2011 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
According to Ivory Latta...
…they are waiting for a plan from God. http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/article.aspx?subjectid=29&articleid=20110701_29_B1_CUTLIN858906
Latta said. “We’ve just got to wait for God’s plan. It’s going to happen.”
So are we all. This could take a while…
by Shannon Cotterell on Jul 12, 2011 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
At least
She has the company line down pat. Gotta love the bible belt :)
by Jessica Lantz on Jul 12, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Ownership...
Here is the owner page, surprisingly free of religious information.
But in a quick search via google and such, Chris Christian is a singer/songwriter/producer of christian music, and has five Dove awards.
by Jessica Lantz on Jul 12, 2011 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Ticha Penicheiro
Magician.
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Oh lord
That has to be an upcoming Lantz headline…
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The challenge is on then
If you can work that into a story, you own Swish Appeal.
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That's way too easy
You know she’s going to make it happen now.
by Shannon Cotterell on Jul 12, 2011 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Speaking of Tulsa...
They never should’ve let Lacy go.
As a young team looking to grow, that was a piece worth holding on to.
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Lacy for Latta was the transaction. I would say a similar thing about Latta too… (but I really liked Lacy – she was a quote machine! :) haha)
by Jessica Lantz on Jul 12, 2011 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
To me the Lacy pickup
demonstrated great GM talent by Richardson. Then he cut her. :( But I guess Kiesha Brown and Latta had equivalent talent.
Are you happy about Ruth? ;)
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I hate it when they play music during play.
Why you want to play loud blaring music while your team is trying to communicate and run a play, I will never have any clue.
by Shannon Cotterell on Jul 12, 2011 9:29 PM EDT reply actions
well at verizon center we have the capitals organ playing now
Instead of pop music
by thewiz06 on Jul 12, 2011 10:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Was hoping LA was a lesser talented team
that Tulsa could pick a win up from.
And here they are leading at the home court of a team that has absolutely hammered Tulsa twice.
Things are looking bleak in Tulsa...
:/
I think they will win again because Cambage will get better and that alone will add wins.
And they can’t run away from zone defense forever. It is fated to be a zone team.
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I was hoping the same thing….guess we’ll just have to hang our hopes on our eastern conference contests…
by Jessica Lantz on Jul 12, 2011 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I've been saying neither team has established themselves today...
BUT… LA might be having their best post-Parker execution of the season
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This is more like what you expect.
A better performance after a coaching change.
Not what happened in Phoenix on Sunday.
I thought we would all implicitly agree that never happened.
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What game Sunday?
I never heard of a Phx game Sunday…hmmm…. #FigmentOfYourImagination
by Jessica Lantz on Jul 12, 2011 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I mean if you all want to discuss it that's your thing..
…but I watched it on DVR and figured it was best for the universe to never mention it again…
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Oh nothing.
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HAIR TALK WARNING (please skip if you do not want to comment on HAIR)
But since I reserved the right to comment on DRob’s hair…
It is just me, or has she toned it down recently? I really miss flaming hair DRob playing like her hair was on fire.
by Shannon Cotterell on Jul 12, 2011 9:40 PM EDT reply actions
I like SASS but they're so...methodical.
It’s weird seeing DRob play kind of conservatively in that system. Talent of the players is still apparent but I’m not getting all fired up about the team the way I keep thinking I should.
by Shannon Cotterell on Jul 12, 2011 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Ditto.
Playing the basketball the right way is boring.
Where’s NBA summer league when you need it?
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I am a Stanford fan. I generally LIKE methodical.
But this style of methodical is not inspiring me. It’s been effective, but not always…fun?
by Shannon Cotterell on Jul 12, 2011 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmmm
That’s the same word I was looking for.
Stanford-methodical is such a well-oiled machine: a huge engine with a million intricate pieces.
So it’s easy to marvel at. This is just players being unselfish. Nobody likes to watch that.
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Not just unselfish.
The Lynx are also unselfish, but not methodical. And they all WANT the ball. They just share because it’s fun.
I think one of the things is that no one on SASS looks like they really want the ball. Not in the sense that they are adverse to it, just that they don’t…care?
by Shannon Cotterell on Jul 12, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Danielle Adams says,
“Oh, you want me to shoot MORE? Cool.”
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At least she is enthusiastic about shooting.
That’s something.
by Shannon Cotterell on Jul 12, 2011 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Definitely
It is way less crazy red than it used to be
by Jessica Lantz on Jul 12, 2011 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
"But since I reserved the right to comment on DRob’s hair…"
I need to see a court order proving your right to invoke hair
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Don't. Or I will sic Willow Smith on you...
…and just shake you off.
by Shannon Cotterell on Jul 12, 2011 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm doing you like Obama did negative campaign attacks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzXcNgCr0nk
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I look forward to seeing a +/- on the Riley-Appel lineup...
… not because I dislike either… but I’m not entirely sure it’s been effective…
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Agreed
Not what I expected from tonight’s game. Maybe since I’ve seen SASS roll over Tulsa & others, I expect them to keep doing that. LOL
by Jessica Lantz on Jul 12, 2011 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Is it too late for Tulsa
to move to the Eastern Conference?
12 games against Washington, Chicago and Atlanta might provide a few wins.
Even possible to take a couple between Connecticut, NY & Indy too….I swear…we gotta work on realignment.
by Jessica Lantz on Jul 12, 2011 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
well all the championships are in the west.........
But last year the east was much better than the west even with seattle winning
by thewiz06 on Jul 12, 2011 10:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
SASS is settling way too much...
LA = lays and fts
SASS = pass, pass, J/contested shot
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Oh Jia....
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Yeah I'm definitely about a minute behind.
I was like “Oh Jia what?” and then a minute later I saw it. Oh, Jia…
by Shannon Cotterell on Jul 12, 2011 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
It could've be a song
Oh Jia… like, “Oh Mandy”?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK8-gZVkYsk
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I think Tulsa needs to hire someone
who people can’t question. It has to be a name that everyone agrees has talent.
Then if they are bad people can stop saying they have talent and the right coach can get it done.
Who is saying that they have the talent to win?
But I agree with you.
My vote is for Plank.
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by Nate Parham on Jul 12, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Some guy who blogs
I think for a TV station.
Said that Nolan Richardson had to go. He referenced their record and the fact that “the court is littered with talent.”
Oh yes... I saw that...
I think Jessica had a better take on the situation…
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by Nate Parham on Jul 12, 2011 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
(but I’m obviously biased) :)
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by Nate Parham on Jul 12, 2011 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
she will get so many cheers at verizon center it won't be funny
Whatever team she’s on…
by thewiz06 on Jul 12, 2011 10:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
All SASS is doing is launching shots...
And Penicheiro is showing them how it’s done…
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No sense of urgency.
It’s like SASS doesn’t realize what the clock says.
Well Adams does, but who else?
10 points was really not an insurmountable lead with SASS’ shooters.
by Shannon Cotterell on Jul 12, 2011 9:58 PM EDT reply actions
But one player does not a comeback make. They have mailed in the last few minutes.
by Jessica Lantz on Jul 12, 2011 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah it just doesn't make any sense
The game was not over by any stretch of the imagination, but the SASS seemed like they were all conceding the victory.
by Shannon Cotterell on Jul 12, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Did someone just say
Ticha Bird Penicheiro has 18 points?
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Well, he will be soon, he's very ill.
by Shannon Cotterell on Jul 12, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
He?
I was fake quoting Ticha who some have suggested should be sending out assistant coaching resumes.
Ah ... even better
Man, who are you talking to?
She’s still a top 10 PG, even in a down year..
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by Nate Parham on Jul 12, 2011 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
It's getting close.
Even for this guy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGFXGwHsD_A
by Jessica Lantz on Jul 12, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Did they need to be stoned dead...
or was time of death pre-stoning…
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by Nate Parham on Jul 12, 2011 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait..
Did you really just say that?
If we’re playing THAT game, I’ll take Stupid Stereotypes for 1000 and say it was less surprising than guys talking about the WNBA.
by Shannon Cotterell on Jul 12, 2011 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
That's an interesting perspective on it
Because I do probably know more women who watch Monty Python and talk about it openly than men who watch WNBA… :)
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by Nate Parham on Jul 12, 2011 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
most men who watch WNBA fall into a combination these categories
1. They watch it because of (a) specific player(s), usually because of looks.
2. are afraid of being laughed at for watching the sport so they’re what I call in the closet fans. Nothing to do with homosexuality here
3. Honestly want to follow college players who turn pro. Women’s college basketball gets a better rep than the WNBA among most men, oddly enough.
Do women not watch it?
But yes, was an entertaining thread overall :)
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by Nate Parham on Jul 12, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't personally know any women who HAVEN'T watched it.
I’m sure there are some, but they are not among the people I know.
by Shannon Cotterell on Jul 12, 2011 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
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