Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
Around SBN: Win or Lose, Boston Celtics' New Big 3 Era A Success

SBN Links: Lady Vols Face UK In SEC Finals, Nikki Caldwell Makes More UCLA History & BEast Bias

There might be certain forward-thinking Tennessee Lady Vols fans who see UCLA coach Nikki Caldwell as part of their post-Pat Summitt future, whenever that may be.

Not that Summitt is exactly showing any signs of slowing down.

Star-divide

The Lady Vols Make It Look Easy and Beat Georgia 82-58 - Rocky Top Talk
If the goal is to play your best basketball during the postseason, then no coach in the country can be any happier than Pat Summitt. After an injury-plagued year with a considerable 'wandering-in-the-desert' phase, Tennessee appears to finally be gelling. The team that started the season relying on Meighan Simmons for an offensive spark is now leaning first on their outstanding defensive efforts.

That the SEC Coach of the Year has maintained her sanity through this year might be a feat unto itself. That she has done that while helping Meighan Simmons settle down and improve her decision making (seemingly by finding her more minutes at the 2) and gotten this team to peak with Angie Bjorklund playing her way back in game shape is really quite amazing - talent alone doesn't win games.

But across the country at UCLA, SBN's Bruins Nation describes how Summitt product Nikki Caldwell is putting the finishing touches on a record-shattering coaching job at UCLA.

UCLA Makes History Once Again In Final Game At Pauley, 66-48 over WSU - Bruins Nation
With the victory today, UCLA improves to 26-3, 16-2 on the season. I feel like every couple of weeks I am writing about more history that Nikki Caldwell has broken (and I will try and compile all of them at the end of the season). Today, Nikki broke 2 more records. With a 26-3 record, Nikki has set the record for most wins ever during the regular season, and the 16 conference wins sets a new record for most conference wins ever. The UCLA season record for wins is 29, which Nikki is chasing and has a good chance to match or break pending how post-season play goes, and hopefully, I'll be writing about it not so long from now.

Bear in mind, UCLA is not a good offensive team at all - they have held steady as the second-worst three point shooting team in the Pac-10 for much of the season and their offense can really struggle to generate points at times.

And yet Caldwell has gotten them to buy into among the most sophisticated defensive schemes in the nation to achieve a #9 ranking. Not bad.

As she will almost certainly continue to break records this season, I'll stop there for now - that should be enough to feed Lady Vols fans' excitement about present and future.

Meanwhile, one Lady Vols fan - aurabass at RockyTopTalk - is not so happy with Big East bias in Charlie Creme's bracketology.

Anatomy of an NCAA WCBB Bracketology Prejudice - Rocky Top Talk
The votes in the rankings tend to effect the Charlie Creme Bracketology and lest we forget that Bracketology is done in Bristol and it ain't Bristol Tennessee.

The Big East schedule is a very weak schedule - No home and home with the best teams facing each other on the road and at home. Instead a team my go through their schedule playing the 7 best teams at home and the worst teams on the road - what an incredible advantage. No way this situation is fair to teams in a league where they play home and away vs the best teams in their league. Do you see it any other way?

Although I find the observation that "it ain't Bristol Tennessee particularly humorous, the bigger point worth contemplating: much of these rankings are determined by wins, losses, point spreads and (far worse) "reputation" almost without any regard for strength of performance, schedule, or success-inhibiting circumstances (e.g. injury, development of younger players that improve over time). Aside from UConn's dominance over the past few years, if all that mattered was wins, there would be no need for a tournament - we could just find the winningest teams from the biggest conference, have a championship between the top two, be like college football and call it a day.

However, to the point of whether there's another way to see it, how about the Wall Street Journal's Darren Everson's perspective on the Sublime Absurdity of the Big East?

Big East Grind Takes Toll in March - WSJ.com
The Big East already stretches from Rhode Island to Wisconsin to Florida and is poised to gobble up even more territory in 2012 when it adds Texas Christian as its 17th team.

We admit it: We enjoy the spectacle and the nightly carnage. But we're starting to wonder if the Big East has gone too far. The Big East season is a grind unlike any in the sport. And it might be doing the conference's members a disservice.

Since growing to 16 teams in the 2005-06 season, the Big East hasn't won a national title, nor have any of its teams played in the championship game.

Of course, there's no concern with Big East teams playing in championship games and even winning them in women's basketball - that UConn team is sort of good. But there is a very clear disadvantage to the way the Big East is currently structured as well.

The next step: someone needs to look at non-UConn Big East women's basketball success in the NCAA women's tournament to determine if there's a similar Sublime Absurdity effect on the women's side that either disconfirms or reinforces the Big East Bracketology Bias Theory.

Poll
"The Big East schedule is a very weak schedule...what an incredible advantage. No way this situation is fair to teams in a league where they play home and away vs the best teams in their league."
True
14 votes
False
2 votes
Advantages & disadvantages negate each other
5 votes
Unsure
2 votes

23 votes | Poll has closed

Comment 13 comments  |  0 recs  | 

Do you like this story?

Comments

Display:

We'll be sure to thank UCLA for giving Caldwell some hands-on training when she takes over at Tennessee.

It’ll be no sooner than 5-10 years or so, so Bruins fans can enjoy her coaching for a while.

by David Hooper on Mar 6, 2011 3:54 PM EST reply actions  

Pac-10 blasphemy!

This is where revenue sharing comes in – might be time for the entire Pac-10 to pool their resources to make sure the Empire doesn’t turn Luke Nikki Caldwell to the Dark Side.

SwishAppeal.com for women's basketball...SB Nation Seattle for Seattle sports. Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Mar 6, 2011 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Expletive an expletive bias

Of course I myself am biased, but who needs to go home and away against the best teams when you have so damn many good teams to choose from? Besides, Notre Dame might have several… more colorful words for that theory.

I am the victim of a basketball jones.

by Queenie on Mar 6, 2011 5:10 PM EST reply actions  

So damn many good teams?

I assume you missed the following line in the linked article then:

“ST John’s best win was the first game vs Marist. – So their 20 and 9 record is NCAA bid worthy? BS”

;)

Seriously though, I think there’s merit to the argument that bias is created – and it might better apply to the men’s side due to TV attention – but the travel schedule minimizes whatever relative advantage they have. That’s a tough enough schedule that it’s not that inflated on the women’s side…

SwishAppeal.com for women's basketball...SB Nation Seattle for Seattle sports. Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Mar 6, 2011 5:59 PM EST up reply actions  

East Coast Bias??

I’m starting to think their is West Coast bias. Hip Hops wars is being replaced by WBB wars.

I will give you West Virginia should not be ranked. But the Big East is as competitive in the middle as any league in the country. Our 8th place team beat those Lady Vols that are thinking the SEC is getting the shaft.

I had left West Virginia out of my last bracket update but replaced them a couple of days ago. Why? I coulfn’t fill a bracket, which was also Creme’s point. 4-6 over their last 10 but you have to have the best teams and WVU is one of the best.

16 teams is awful and way too many. But unless you divide the league and not play everyone every year, you are stuck. There are 4 “GIve me” games in the Big East. There are 5 “Give me” games in the SEC, leaving you 7 competitive teams, SEC country needs to stop their whining and look to improve the bottom half of their weak league.

Follow me for witty commentary on sports, life, and current events.

Twitter: @BuiltByDays

by Holly C. Tanneyhill on Mar 6, 2011 5:27 PM EST reply actions  

Five teams in the Big East have a RPI in the 100s, and Pitt's almost there (and 14-17)

That’s six bad teams. Personally, I don’t see the case for more than four in the SEC. Despite it’s poor conference record, Arkansas has been ranked, and the inclusion of Florida, LSU or South Carolina would also just be foolish.

by RP_45 on Mar 6, 2011 6:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I use Sargarins which I find are more accurate...

Only 3 Big East teams are below 100.

http://www.rpiratings.com/womragte.htm

The SEC also has 3 teams, but they have less teams than the Big East. I will research my point more later on, I am suppose to be watching Depaul St.Johns and writing post games….

Follow me for witty commentary on sports, life, and current events.

Twitter: @BuiltByDays

by Holly C. Tanneyhill on Mar 6, 2011 7:20 PM EST up reply actions  

We, the People, of the West Coast...

…are simply fighting for our right to be respected as human beings by any means necessary.

This is about a struggle for freedom from the tyranny of a Bristolian East Coast media bias ;)

I admire the attempt of my Knoxville brethren to stand up against such tyranny.

Perhaps as a tangentially related aside: Where I will join is saying that the Pac-10 is 6-2 against the BEast this season. One of those 2 was Stanford losing to DePaul w/o Pedersen, the other Rutgers beating Oreg St. Otherwise, Cal beat Rutgers (very early, I know) and Ariz St beat DePaul…and UCLA won at Notre Dame.

I personally put nothing in these early season losses/“quality wins” nonsense (bad days happen), but the reality is that the nat’l media/committee do and by that logic the Pac-10 deserves more respect than it has gotten this year. You could quite easily establish that there is some (non-malicious) East Coast bias simply because games aren’t readily available to watch and when they are, they’re late: somehow cupcake BEast games are disregarded while the entire Pac-10 is derided…

So do BEast teams benefit from having 6 weaker teams to feast on? Maybe but I think that’s negated by travel. Is that the sole factor in tournament decisions? No. But is there something to the notion that the BEast might be getting overrated a smidge this year relative to say the Pac-10? Yes, for a combination of reasons.

SwishAppeal.com for women's basketball...SB Nation Seattle for Seattle sports. Twitter: @NateP_SBN.

by Nate Parham on Mar 6, 2011 6:31 PM EST up reply actions  

A little late to this discussion

but since I wrote the Anatomy of a Bracketology Prejudice I might as well chime in.

The piece was a specific attack on Charlie Creme of ESPN and his bracketology wherein he pushes for 10 teams to be included in the field of 16. The results are now in and he was ONLY 9 tenths right. So the question is: Does Creme and ESPN have undue influence over the selection committee and is that detrimental to the other major conferences.

Much has been said and debated on this situation on The SUmmiTT in this Thread . There is a wealth of information here to support the argument. And now we can carry that argument further with the predictions by ESPN “experts” following the Monday night bracket show. Specifically Charlie Creme who predicts that Notre Dame will defeat Tennessee as the only non one seed in the final four. He is joined by Melanie Jackson in picking UConn as the champion, the inclusion of Skyler Diggins of Notre Dame’s weblog, A Charlie Creme piece on the great guards in the Dayton region that does not even mention UT"s Meighan Simmons – high scorer on the Lady Vols and not one ESPN analyst picking Tennessee to prevail as Nation Champ despite the depth and longest current win streak in WCBB.

ESPN is in Bristol some 17 miles from Hartford and 44 miles from Storrs. Folks there attend the games at Gampel and the XL Center, have friends and neighbors with kids at UConn and generally have the same affection for their state U as most employees of any company located in or near an excellent college sports program.

ESPN is the voice and view of WCBB. They broadcast most of the games and have by far the dominant web presence in the sport. Any selection committee member or any coach or writer who votes in the polls has to be influenced by Creme, Melanie Jackson, Rebecca Lobo, and Doris Burke. Even former Lady Vol Kara Lawson has been influenced to favor Big East teams in her AP voting since she lives and works at ESPN and the Connecticut Sun. 18 of the 40 AP voters are from Big East markets as opposed to 4 in SEC markets.

ESPN is to UConn women’s basketball as Fox News is to the Tea or Republican parties. – a totally biased source of information. So does that bias have an undue influence on rankings and the selection process for the tournament. and recruiting? It is difficult to predict what the difference in scheduling does to conference records. A couple of the mid level Big East teams played the 6 bottom teams in the league and either Seton Hall or Cincy twice. That’s an almost automatic 7 wins. If a favorable draw gives either Syracuse, St John’s, Louisville Marquette or West Virginia the other teams in that group at home it makes for an excellent chance at a very good record since it results in losses to say UConn, Notre Dame and DePaul and wins vs Seton Hall, Cincy, Nova and South Florida on the road and wins vs the other’s at home.

Of course PAC 10 teams get to beat the Washington and Oregon teams home and away for 8 wins but they also get to lose to Stanford, UCLA, and ASU for 6 losses. What they don’t get is the constant hype from Creme, Burke Lobo and Jackson. Stanford beat UConn, UCLA won at Notre Dame, Arizona State beat DePaul, and Cal beat Rutgers, but the PAC 10 is the worst major conference according to ESPN. How does that mesh with the record?

SB Nation is a good place to launch an effort to review what we read and hear from ESPN to quantify the bias in the only media that really covers the sport nationwide. After several years of devoting significant time to study of the WCBB game and ESPN I am certain that the bias exists to the detriment of every conference except the Big East and that influence is bearing fruit as more young talent is drawn to the Big East because of that influence.

This is beyond the charge that ESPN provided a private tour to Maya Moore and her mother when they visited UConn and that visit helped to cement her decision to sign up with Geno. Not many of us care enough about WCBB to observe this situation in detail. I have and I am certain that the bias and influence are an increasing element in the favor of UConn and the Big East in this sport.

by aurabass on Mar 18, 2011 6:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

Passionate basketball fans honoring the beauty and skill of the game.

Facebook badge

SBN Women's College Basketball Blogroll

ACC

Blogger So Dear (Wake Forest)

Streaking the Lawn (Virginia)

Big 12

Crimson and Cream Machine (Oklahoma)

Double T Nation (Texas Tech)

I Am The 12th Man (Texas A&M)

Big East:

Anonymous Eagle  (Marquette)

The UConn Blog

Big Ten

Black Heart Gold Pants (Iowa)

Hammer & Rails (Purdue)

Sippin' On Purple (Northwestern)

MAC:

Hustle Belt (conference blog)

Pac-12

Bruins Nation (UCLA)

Building the Dam (Oregon St)

California Golden Blogs (Cal)

Rule of Tree (Stanford)

SEC

Rocky Top Talk (Tennessee)

 


Managers

Natehead_small Nate Parham

Seth_twitter_pic_4_small Seth Pollack

Reffeet_small Jessica Lantz

Editors

Background2_small Queenie

Bowtie_001_small James Bowman

Authors

Reunion_crop_small Holly C. Tanneyhill

Small M Robinson

Small Ray Floriani