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WUFC 101 a/k/a The WNBA Games of July 3, 2010

Former teammates and best friends, Cappie Pondexter and Diana Taurasi mix it up in Phoenix, Just one of three incidents to occur in the WNBA on Saturday Fight Night (Photo by Ryan Malone)


Brock Lesnar better step aside, because there was more physicality and brutality on the courts of the WNBA on Saturday night than there was in the UFC octagon!  Chicago-Atlanta, LA-Seattle, and NY-Phoenix all had violence and brutality (okay, I'm stretching it a little) that have fans in an uproar, while perhaps the only game that really SHOULD have fans in an uproar is Tula losing their 10 in a row to Washington.  Let's examine each and hand out some WUFC discipline.

Star-divide

Chicago Defeats Atlanta, 88-82.

Combatant #1:: Sylvia Fowles, Angel McCoughtry

Combatant #2:: Sancho Lyttle, Mistie Bass

Fowles knocked Lyttle out of the game late in the 4th quarter, when her elbow caught the new Spanish national on the left cheekbone when she caught a rebound.

No foul was called and the Atlanta bench was charged with a technical foul.

Lyttle manager Marynell Meadors on Fowles' fighting style: "She hit three people tonight with those elbows. I don't have anything good to say (about the officiating), so I'm not going to say anything at all"

Bass may have had her nose broken when she tried to block McCoughtry's shot.  Bass was called for the foul.  One can only surmise by the participants that Angel realized Sylvia Fowles was tearing them apart, looked at the size of Sylvia and said ;'heck with that I'm going after Mistie!"

WUFC Response: Aggressive hard plays on both accounts.  Syvlia just was teaching Sancho what she would see in the World Championships, and Angel was showing Mistie what would happen to her if Sylvia continues to destroy Atlanta. 

Next case!

Seattle Defeats Los Angeles, 75-62

Combatant #1: DeLisha Milton-Jones

Combatant #2: Lauren Jackson

For oh, the 10th or 12th time Delisha tried to remove Lauren's nose with her elbows.  No one is quite sure if DeLisha has an aversion to Lauren's hair color of the month, or if she was trying to celebrate Independence Day by declaring war on Australia, but this western division rivalry was renewed again last night.

Smack from Combatant #1, DeLisha; "I know the personality I have off the court, (author's note: she's a sweetheart!) there's no way I can bring that on the court. I tried it when I was in college. If someone fell down, I would go over and pick them up and my coach was livid — 'What are you doing? Either you give the first lick or you get the first lick. Which one do you want?' I said, 'give it' — just scared, not wanting to hurt nobody. I just wanted to play the game."

Smack from Combatant #2, Lauren: "Every single game that we play against DeLisha, everyone knows she's a thug.  It's ridiculous to me, but whatever. On a bad day, I probably would have decked her back, but I don't really care. I'm just happy we won."

Jackson was okay, Milton-Jones was in foul trouble most of the game, and the Storm won.

WUFC Response:  DeLisha, when you're on a winning team, it's okay, we understand  But at this point? The Sparks aren't going anyplace, and Seattle is the best team in the league.  I'm not saying take your lumps and like it, but the elbows and all after the play?  It's enough while you're on this team.  And speaking of that, the WUFC mandates that DeLisha Milton-Jones be traded immediately to Atlanta.  Then the Dream will have someone that won't be afraid to go for the right person.

And finally, laaaadies and gentlemennnn, the Main Event!  Let's Get Ready to Rumblllllllllllle!!!!

Phoenix defeats New York 75-62

Combatant #1: Cappie Pondexter

Combatant #2: Penny Taylor & Diana Taurasi

Sideshow Participants: Corey Gaines, Ketia Swanier, Nicole Powell, some insane fan who was allowed just about on the court, NY Liberty organization, Phoenix Mercury organization, Essence Carson

This one was a true heavyweight thriller!   Taylor drove for an uncontested layup only to be leveled by a blow to the head and neck by Pondexter, who was going for (depending on who you believe) either the ball or Taylor.  To understand th WUFC's view on this one, one must understand a basic definition, straight from NBA.com's "Explaining the NBA’s Most Misunderstood Rules" (http://www.nba.com/features/misunderstoodrules_051128.html).

A flagrant foul 2 is unnecessary and excessive contact. This usually has a swinging motion, hard contact, and a follow through. Both fouls carry a penalty of two free throws and the team that was fouled retains possession. A flagrant foul 2 also results in an ejection of the player committing the foul.

Please note the part in bold.  In other words, regardless of how many times Essence Carson feels like tweeting "Freecappie",  Pondexter hit Taylor with a flagrant 2 foul by definition of the rule.  The ejection was correctly called, and a suspension should follow based upon the rules.

The length of the suspension may be determined by whether or not the league feels Taurasi should have gone around the Liberty players while on her way to help up Taylor, as a Liberty fan friend of mine suggests, or if she was just running to a teammate and Pondexter threw a needless elbow and arm at Taurasi's head and neck too.

Now for the sideshows.  Ketia Swanier was about at the foul line, caught on video, after leaving the bench, a no-no, before being pulled back.  Corey Gaines apparently decided to contribute these pearls of wisdom immediately after the incident: "Now the truth comes out. Everyone can see."  [EDIT: Gaines supposedly said this and it was immediately re-tweeted, we'll take it as heresay, but this is WUFC, not WLaw & WOrder]. Nicole Powell, getting in between the grapplers, got into it with some crazed fan who almost is on the court, with a security person standing beside her even.   Then Cappie is made unavailable to the press post-game. This was some major insanity!

WUFC Response:  The WUFC has really struggled with this one.  So many sides, so many angles...and so much stupidity!

First, Pondexter.  Three game suspension, and a week of sensitivity training with Geno Auriemma.  Cappie, in all seriousness, I believe in playing all out, etc. but you gotta know where you are.  You've won two titles  You got your ring before the game.  The crowed cheered like heck for you.  All you needed to do in my opinon to reduce this from boil to simmer was help up Taylor.  Instead you chose to walk away, and then elbow Diana.  Great; you've now taken cheap shots at the two players they loved more than you.  And this helped you how?  Come on, think!

Second Taylor.  One game suspension.  Penny, I know you feel you got cheap-shot'd, but you cannot get up and go after her.  You have been in several incidents, now, and you should know better.

Third Taurasi.  No suspension, but a good size fine.  You got suckered in Dee.  Can't let that happen.  You deserve to pay the league's favorite charity a part of your next check.

Fourth, Swanier.  One game suspension.  Rules are clear here Ketia.  You gotta go.  Can't leave that bench area, period.

Fiifth, Powell.  Small fine.  Nicole, no matter how big a nutcase that woman was, you cannot take on the fans..  The league thanks you for your contribution.

Sixth, Gaines.  No suspension or fine, just a talking to about how to diffuse a situation and not further antagonize it with his comments.  I didn't hear anything from Ann Donovan.  Then again she didn't say much during the game either.

Seventh, the fan that confronted Powell.  Season tickets revoked.  Get outta here.  That was a more troubling situation to me than Cappie's foul.  Fans cannot be allowed do something like that, and while I'm on the subject

Eighth, the security guard by that fan.   To quote Donald Trump, "You're fired!"  Go straight out of the arena, do not pass go, do not collect $200.  You, my friend, are what they will now show NOT to do in those job training videos.

Ninth, Liberty organization.  Substantial fine for not making Cappie available post-game.  Sorry, but she could have easily helped her suspension cause with a public statement to the press.  Something like, oh, maybe this: "I'm sayin this to all my fans I would never do anything on the court to hurt anyone! Imma competitor 1st"  Oh wait, I remember she TWEETED that after the game.  She can't do it to the media who has a job to do, but she can tweet it instead.  The Liberty should be ashamed of themselves.

Tenth, Mercury organization.  You need to assure your fans a safe and enjoyable experience.  Things happen on the court during play, and you can't be faulted for that.  But you cannot have security allowing people to confront players on the floor.  Part of the great thing about the WNBA is the interaction that players have with fans.  When the players have to deal with crap like that, we all suffer.  You deserve a big fine.

Finally, a first!  A whole day after an incident, a punishment is needed.  Essence Carson, suspension of your twitter account for a week for killing everyone's timeline with #freecappie!

Whew, that was a big one!

So, that concludes our WUFC 101 retrospective.  I hope you enjoyed it, and hopefully, you won't ever be joining us for coverage of a WUFC 102, because there won't be one!

EDIT:  Important edit!  That "crazed fan" was Mercury GM and President Ann Meyers Drysdale!  Accordingly, the WUFC makes the following important revised Responses:

1. Security Guard who let the "crazed fan" near the court, not only gets their job back, they are elevated to head of security and given a company car.

2. The crazed fan does not lose her STH privileges, she gets to be a front office executive for the team in charge of all operations for doing such a great job supporting her players.

3. Nicole Powell is now suspended the rest of the season for not arguing with a friend, but arguing with an executive of another team.

That is all!

Poll
Which WUFC Decision is the most fair and correct?
Pondexter: 3 games
58 votes
Taylor: 1 game
14 votes
Milton-Jones: immediate trade to Atlanta
17 votes
Carson: suspension of her twitter account
10 votes
They all were pretty damn awesome!
32 votes

131 votes | Poll has closed

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Wow, great stuff

I totally missed Swanier on the court and the fan thing…going back to watch the film again

Raising Arizona Sports at SB Nation Arizona twitter: @sethpo

by Seth Pollack on Jul 4, 2010 4:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Yup

A Merc player certainly did leave the bench. Problably Swanier but it might have been Holmes. Video is grainy.

The “fan” I think you are talking about is actually Ann Meyers Drysdale.

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by Seth Pollack on Jul 4, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh and Corey's comments

weren’t post game…they were overheard and tweeted immediately following the incident by someone (not a fan) near the Merc bnech. Post game he wouldn’t really talk about it

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by Seth Pollack on Jul 4, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Post game quotes and reactions are all at SB Nation Arizona in the recap

Or here, for your clicking pleasure.

My favorite line from Gaines all night was, “Well, you know Cappie always gave good fouls…”

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by Trevor Paxton on Jul 4, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Editor's note:

I corrected the original text to reflect the source of Gaines’ quote…

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by Nate Parham on Jul 4, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes the "fan" is...

Yes, since I WAS at the game the “fan” the writer is specking of in the video (why security did not touch her) is the Mercury GM and President Ann Meyers Drysdale. I wish I knew what was said there…..

by irishblonde on Jul 4, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Fan is..

This revelation has led to a crucial modification to the responses of the WUFC. Please see the bottom of the article for this important revision.

by DishNSwish on Jul 4, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Though

I would have liked to see more Ann vs Nicole fight but thats just me

by irishblonde on Jul 4, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

my money is on Meyers

Nicole’s a scholar, not a fighter.

I am the victim of a basketball jones.

by Queenie on Jul 4, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but

Nicole strikes me as one of those people you don’t want to piss off because you just don’t know how she’s going to react.

by just checkin on Jul 5, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Glad to see...

Someone taking Penny Taylor to task for her actions. Everything I’ve read and all the immediate reactions last night were all “Cappie this” “Cappie that”. Was Cappie out of line? Absolutely. But that does not give Taylor the right to jump up and run across the court to take a swing at her, and I don’t understand why NO ONE is calling her out on it.

by skeb on Jul 4, 2010 5:17 PM EDT reply actions  

I've never, in any sport, taken a player to task

for reacting to getting hit by a cheap shot….

the T was deserved and I wouldn’t argue w/ the suspension but when you head hunt like that you are going to earn a reaction.

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by Seth Pollack on Jul 4, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe because she just got leveled and most people are more forgiving of

retaliation than instigation?

All I hear is people complaining about Sweden invading Norway, why won’t anyone complain about Norway fighting back? Even if their country is getting invaded they’re wrong for fighting back?

by Scotter on Jul 4, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Somehow, this doesn't apply to the Ron Artest/Ben Wallace incident

Where was the outcry then? Don’t seem to recall anyone feeling sorry for Ron for being shoved by a wild-haired psycho. It takes two to tango.

Cappie was wrong (have seen plays like that severely injure players e.g. TJ Ford getting whacked by Al Horford) and deserved the Flagrant 2 plus a one-game suspension. For her role in the fracas, she deserves to be suspended another game. Anything over two games is ridiculous unless Penny Taylor’s being suspended for two (and she isn’t).

As for Penny, her reaction is normal but not 100% justified. It’s okay to get angry when you feel that you’re the victim of a dirty play, but I’ve seen players get hit harder and not retaliate and I’ve seen her get hit harder and not retaliate, so maybe there was some premeditation to her actions (charging Cappie). Maybe she expected this from Cappie and had this reaction planned. Don’t know for sure, but she should receive a 1-game suspension anyhow for escalating the incident. She didn’t have to retaliate even though most players would have done the same thing (and they would’ve been just as wrong).

Swanier (yes that was her) came off the bench, so she’s automatically out for a game. Rules are rules. Good thing she didn’t seem to get involved in the main affair or else that would’ve meant multiple games ala Bobbitt in 2008.

Not sure what to make of Taurasi’s role in this incident. I think a fine for her is appropriate, as it’s hard to determine whether her initial intent was to charge Cappie or tend to Penny.

So there you have it: 2 games for the instigator, 1 game for the player who escalated the incident, and one game for a player who didn’t adhere to bench decorum rules (aka the Boris Diaw/Amar’e Stoudemire rule). Two bad teams will be at least one man down in their next games, which means their records will become even poorer—and both LA and Seattle will “rejoice”. The end.

by just checkin on Jul 4, 2010 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

just checkin...

I could live with two for Cappie and one for Penny.

The three logic was:
1 game for the Flagrant 2
1 game for the Taurasi elbow to the head
1 game for the locking up with Taylor over the referee (which is the 1 game I gave Taylor)

But I can see 2 for Cappie just as easily.

by DishNSwish on Jul 4, 2010 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

The article was in good fun, so it’s no biggie. :) We both agree that Penny deserves a game and Cappie obviously deserves more.

by just checkin on Jul 4, 2010 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Watch the video

If you watch the video from the game on wnba.com you can see with all the replays from every angle that Diana was going for Taylor and was BLINDSIDED by Cappie. Trust me if she had done anything wrong the ref (#39) would have called something because he has something out for her(Diana).

by irishblonde on Jul 4, 2010 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uh, I did watch the video

Doesn’t change my stance. She will either receive a fine or nothing at all. I have little to no concern about whether the refs have something out for her or not, as it’s not in their hands anymore.

by just checkin on Jul 4, 2010 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Penny T

Love Penny…not gonna lie it’s a little disconcerting that she’s been involved with so many of these things.

Is she doing a little needling we’re not seeing?

Hey it was a LIberty fight and Plenette wasn’t involved!

by DishNSwish on Jul 4, 2010 5:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Quote_ But that does not give Taylor the right to jump up and run across the court to take a swing at her, and I don’t understand why NO ONE is calling her out on it._Quote

Pure speculation on your part skeb. Penny never threw a punch. How do you know she wasn’t bouncing up to give Cappie a big kiss and thank her for leaving? Or get up and grab her around the neck?
Both as plausible as punching her at this point

But really, the way she was clocked upside the head few people would say she was wrong for wanting to get a piece of Cappie. Ya gotta stand up for yourself in this world or people will continuously push you around. Penny looked ready to stand up for herself…but luckily Dee had the cooler head…dam, never thought I’d type that phrase, LOL

by caune on Jul 4, 2010 5:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Caune...

You absolutely have to stand up for yourself, but you have to realize your actions can have consequences. I’m not saying she behaved differently than anyone else would have, but I think she has to get a suspension of a game for the “over the ref, hand locking skirmish” with Cappie.

I’m not sure Dee had a cooler head, looked to me like she and Penny were fighting over who could get to Cappie first, but Janel grabbed Dee!

by DishNSwish on Jul 4, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

But if Cappie hadn’t of blindsided Dee……Dee was going to Penny to help her up or hold her back or both, LOL that’s why I said she had the cooler head because judging by Pennys eyes she wanted to tear Cappie into pieces

by caune on Jul 4, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cappie gets a F2...

but once again, D-Nasty gets off scot free. Not just for the shot that gave Lauren a bloody nose (and a concussion, it turns out), but also for the one while Lauren was bent over checking her nose. The saying is “no blood, no foul” but in this case it’s “blood and a concussion, but no foul”. Ridiculous!

When is the league going to wake up and realize DMJ is intentionally trying to hurt players? I don’t care if she’s Mary Poppins off the court. She’s more like Lizzie Borden on it, going after players with what looks like full intentions to hurt them in some fashion and get away with it.

by wbb fan on Jul 4, 2010 11:49 PM EDT reply actions  

I gotta say, this was one of, if not the most fun blog posts I have ever read. I would love to read more game recaps from you (even if the games themselves were not violent). This was great!

by bekcat on Jul 5, 2010 8:59 AM EDT reply actions  

bekat...

thank you very much for the compliment!

I think Swish Appeal has some of the best game coverage around, and I love reading the reports of all our writers!

by DishNSwish on Jul 5, 2010 10:07 AM EDT reply actions  

I'd love to see the video

Does anybody know where I can see the video? I saw the replay at the game, and it looked like head-hunting on Cappie’s part, but it was just a first impression. I didn’t see the elbow to Dee’s head. I didn’t see the D-Nasty foul that wasn’t. Would like to see a replay of all of this.

I love both Cappie and Penny because they are both warriors, and every once in a while things get overheated. I hope they don’t turn into thugs with a reputation like D-Nasty.

by OVJ on Jul 5, 2010 10:58 AM EDT reply actions  

Enjoyed the viewing!

After seeing the replay a few times, I think the thing that made it a flagrant 2 was the way Cappie took a full backswing before she tried to “block the shot”. It looked like the classic “send a message” foul disguised as a shot block. She may have even gotten a finger on the ball, but I don’t think it matters. I don’t blame Penny for not taking kindly to such a cheap shot. I don’t think the exchange betwen Cappie and Diana was that significant; probably Cappie thought Diana was coming for her rather than to check on her teammate.

I think you have to give Cappie a couple of days off for that. Had the referee not intervened, who knows what would have happened when Penny reached Cappie. As it is, I’m not sure Penny deserves a day off, but I don’t know what the rules say. The technical foul that she received seems about right.

The real puzzle to me is why would Cappie do something like that? She was having a great game, and the Liberty had a good chance to win had she stayed in the game.

by OVJ on Jul 5, 2010 4:48 PM EDT reply actions  

OVJ....

Clearly the reason Cappie did it, was because Ryan and I had picked in the Pick One challenge discussion on the radio show during the week! It was a plot by the guy that writes the Pick One predictions article on wnba.com to undermine his competition, and he got Cappie to do it!

Don’t forget you can hear this upcoming week’s predictions on Dishin & Swishin: The World of Women’s Hoops on www.wstrradio.com on Wednesday, after 1 pm ET.

Guests this week include TERESA WEATHERSPOON and Mystics GM Angela Taylor

by DishNSwish on Jul 6, 2010 3:36 AM EDT reply actions  

:D

Ace entertainment. This was great!

(It is hilarious that it took McCarville AND Taj to hold back Diana. Seriously. What the heck do they feed that girl?)

by fadeoutin on Jul 7, 2010 5:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Thanks fadeoutin!

I appreciate the compliments! And regarding your question; you play in Russia in the winter and see how strong you get!

by DishNSwish on Jul 7, 2010 10:04 AM EDT reply actions  

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