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Liberty-Silver Stars incidental "game thread": What "new dimension" might Jayne Appel add?

Silver Stars rookie center Jayne Appel was a tenacious rebounder at Stanford University and her size and instincts may allow her to be effective on the glass in the WNBA. Photo by Craig Bennett/112575 Media.

After the Seattle Storm's 3-0 start, the undercurrent of championship expectations seemed to gain strength with the dominant assumption that the team had beaten the other pre-season playoff contenders for the Western Conference.

Not so fast, claimed Storm head coach Brian Agler.

"Well, I don't know if they're the top three," said Agler referring to the Los Angeles Sparks, Minnesota Lynx, and Phoenix Mercury. "San Antonio's in second place right now."

Although there might have been have been a feeling prior to the season that San Antonio was on the outside of the playoffs looking in with so much off-season movement from other Western Conference teams, San Antonio is suddenly the team to watch.

In a way, each home game for the Silver Stars has brought a new wrinkle of roster improvement for the Silver Stars: their home opener was a loss to a strong Atlanta Dream team in which Becky Hammon and Sophia Young carried the team. At the time of Agler's comment, forward Chamique Holdsclaw had just joined the team a few days before and scored 19 points on 9-15 shooting in their second home game, a 88-81 win over the Los Angeles Sparks. In their third home game tonight against the New York Liberty, the Silver Stars fans will get their first look at center Jayne Appel, their first round draft pick out of Stanford University

Star-divide

 

Although arguments could be made that the team is still a little post heavy, it's hard not to mention them as a sleeper contender in the Western conference.

Two things that Silver Stars coach Sandy Brondello mentioned in her post-practice chat about her team and its new additions is that a) they're an unselfish team with the chemistry coming together and b) suddenly they can take some of the pressure off of the shoulders of guard Becky Hammon and forward Sophia Young.

Clay Kallam of Slam Online described what that means for the team in a little more depth.

SLAM ONLINE | " It’s Raining Buckets
But now, with Holdsclaw playing as aggressively as she did Saturday, two things happen: Things open up for Hammon and Young; and the pressure on Hammon and Young is much less. Again, looking at Saturday’s 88-81 win over L.A., Hammon only took nine shots, and the combination of Hammon shooting fewer than 10 times and San Antonio winning the game was highly unlikely in 2009. Now, with scorer number three on the floor, even not knowing the offense, the Silver Stars are either a) going to have one of their big three going one-on-one, or b) another player on the floor left pretty much wide open (hence Edwige Lawson-Wade and Snow combining for 28 points).

While Holdsclaw adds an established scorer to the mix, Appel adds something that the team lost when center Ann Wauters decided not to play for the team -- an interior passing presence.

Silver Stars' top pick set for debut
A week after the free-agent signing of six-time All-Star Chamique Holdsclaw, the team has added another weapon to a growing arsenal with Appel finally being cleared to take the court. "People, the last few months, haven't seen the best of Jayne," Silver Stars coach Sandy Brondello said. "This last week has been good for her. She adds another dimension."

One way that Appel takes potentially pressure off the shoulders of the team's stars -- particularly Hammon -- is that she is probably the best passing center ever to enter the league from the collegiate ranks. In the past, this is a team that has been quite effective running a lot of offense through the post -- both the high and low post -- with Ann Wauters. However, it's interesting to note that Wauters was also essentially the team's third scorer -- meaning she was both facilitating offense and looking to score.

With Holdsclaw and Appel, those responsibilities are essentially split -- Appel has typically not been a scoring threat from beyond the low post as Wauters was and Holdsclaw will not likely become the third scorer. So take Kallam's explanation of what Holdsclaw adds and add to that a reliable player who has the skills to run an offense from the post position. Suddenly, they become even more dynamic.

Another way that Appel could potentially help is on the defensive end. She was a very strong rebounder in college by percentage and that typically translates well to pro basketball success, NBA or WNBA. In addition, if you've ever seen Appel in person, she will enter the league as one of the most imposing physical presences around -- she has a wide, strong build, big hands, and outstanding rebounding instincts. In terms of post defense, she demonstrated excellent footwork and positioning during her senior year even while injured. For all that was made of her offensive ability, her defensive contributions should not go unnoticed and will certainly add to what the Silver Stars do.

This is not to anoint Appel as an instant impact player in the league -- there are people who believe she'll be everything from career starter to bust. Additionally, on a team that already has five post players on the roster -- most of whom are veterans -- there's no guarantee (nor should there be) that Appel will play big minutes. But there is no doubt that she gives the Silver Stars a new dimension to consider utilizing going forward.

Aside from the new additions, the Silver Stars will also be getting a bit of a boost from having rested for a week.

Week off allows Silver Stars to heal, learn
Becky Hammon was back on the practice court Thursday, no longer appearing to be slowed by a thigh ailment that, at times, made her look as if she was walking around like Red Foxx of 'Sanford and Son' fame.

Overall, this is a rapidly improving team at least on paper and tonight's game will only be a small glimpse on what they can become.

Related Links:

Rookie center Jayne Appel spoke to the media after yesterday's practice.

Silver Stars coach Sandy Brondello talks about the development of the team after practice.

Silver Stars Faith Night Features Shane & Shane - OurSports Central - Independent and Minor League Sports News

Swish Appeal's pre-draft analysis of Jayne Appel

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LOL

it was really distracting, wasn’t it?

by az25blue on May 28, 2010 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Leave that woman alone!

Ageless people can do what they want! ;)

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by Nate Parham on May 28, 2010 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK...

I’m starting to wonder if the hair is part of an upcoming marketing gimmick…

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by Nate Parham on May 28, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Leilani going hard to the basket!

Love it.

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by Nate Parham on May 28, 2010 8:14 PM EDT reply actions  

This game is going at a much higher tempo thanI imagined...

I’d say that favors New York who has Taj “The Machine” McWilliams-Franklin…

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by Nate Parham on May 28, 2010 8:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Mitchell for three!

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by Nate Parham on May 28, 2010 8:20 PM EDT reply actions  

SASS has like endless post players...

Jeez…

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by Nate Parham on May 28, 2010 8:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Well one of their problems is that one of their strongest post players...

…is as soft as Charmin… ;)

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by Nate Parham on May 28, 2010 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

see, now if you mean strong like power and you're talking about Damp, then yes.

if you’re talking about Sir Dirk, you best watch your tongue. maybe he’s not the best defender, but he’s one of the best big men shooters ever to play the game.

by LJRotter on May 28, 2010 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Soft" and "big men shooter"

is DEFINITELY not mutually exclusive…

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by Nate Parham on May 28, 2010 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stars Wars in concert

That was in Seattle sometime last fall… I missed it… I’m not entirely sure if I regret it or not…

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by Nate Parham on May 28, 2010 8:27 PM EDT reply actions  

I would judge...

except I took my ex to see Video Games Live.

by LJRotter on May 28, 2010 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or for you video game/Sportscenter fans out there...

“…and the New York Liberty were en fuego”

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by Nate Parham on May 28, 2010 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's that ego I was talking about earlier...

Somebody should pay you though..

Too bad your boss man is a slave driver… ;)

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by Nate Parham on May 28, 2010 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's a SARCASTIC ego

and no comment on the slave driver thing…

by LJRotter on May 28, 2010 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

shouldn't have said anything

now they’ve lost the ability to defend inside.

by LJRotter on May 28, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man -

They really are dependent upon you for success!!!

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by Nate Parham on May 28, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm seeing some decent passing.

looks like the newbies have settled in pretty well.

by LJRotter on May 28, 2010 8:34 PM EDT reply actions  

For what it's worth..

The Silver Stars are playing quite well..

It’s just that putting the ball in basket part they’re struggling with…

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by Nate Parham on May 28, 2010 8:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Yep

One day you’ll need to find a team that scores in the paint…

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by Nate Parham on May 28, 2010 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't help myself...

How’d that work out for you in the 2007 playoffs?

(Seriously, I’m sorry… the thought just wouldn’t go away no matter how hard I tried)

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by Nate Parham on May 28, 2010 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why must we be judged on your Western European standards of success?

Maybe we are successful in ways other than “winning” or “playoffs”!

Isn’t that the social work culturally relevant strengths based approach?

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by Nate Parham on May 28, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have NO idea what you're talking about

but the Warriors knocked out the Mavs, then fell off the face of the earth.

by LJRotter on May 28, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

(Typically I don’t think the people who use postmodernist explanations for things know what they’re talking about either… that nonsense is said to sound smart by using abstractions that you can’t really untangle)

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by Nate Parham on May 28, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

*note

(That’s why I use such arguments to discuss the Warriors – “reality” is far too painful)

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by Nate Parham on May 28, 2010 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

um, the score thing on the bottom says

San Antonio Silver Stars 34
Washington Mystics 31

by LJRotter on May 28, 2010 8:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh lord...

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by Nate Parham on May 28, 2010 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

i know...

to say she’s irritating is an understatement

by az25blue on May 28, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

NBA update...

Heard JJ Reddick hasn’t played yet….

hehehe

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by Nate Parham on May 28, 2010 8:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Speaking of ageless individuals...

Have Taj and Mr. Shuttlesworth found the same fountain of youth????

Good lord…

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by Nate Parham on May 28, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

had to look that up

why on EARTH is that his nickname?

by LJRotter on May 28, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

The movie!

You never saw He Got Game?

You’re a step away from being banned from Swish Appeal…

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by Nate Parham on May 28, 2010 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

dude

I will watch it. relax.

by LJRotter on May 28, 2010 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see your sarcastic ego

And raise it sarcastic panic…

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by Nate Parham on May 28, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't say 'lol"

but I literally just laughed out loud.

by LJRotter on May 28, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you weren't a Redskins fan

…you’d be like my arch nemesis…

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by Nate Parham on May 28, 2010 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe...

But you’d be Nemesis Enforcer…the big ugly winged thing… he’s somewhat hard to work with…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDjS3w2zuWk&feature=related

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by Nate Parham on May 28, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

better question..

why did I just watch that entire clip…

by LJRotter on May 28, 2010 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sadly I knew the refernce immediately

I’ll also admit to having the Transformers movie from the same era on DVD,and having listened to the audio commentary.

by Scotter on May 28, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait...

What’s sad about that? ;)

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by Nate Parham on May 28, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Powell heats up with the shooting...

SASS will have no chance

(as I was writing that, Powell bricked hard…)

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by Nate Parham on May 28, 2010 9:08 PM EDT reply actions  

ah, but Cappie?

she’s shooting just fine.

by LJRotter on May 28, 2010 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

YEah, they're in good shape regardless right now...

A more efficient Powell would make them even harder to beat…

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by Nate Parham on May 28, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep...

I believe that’s 2-3 in the quarter…

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by Nate Parham on May 28, 2010 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

here comes Appel

which, interestingly enough, is my maternal grandmother’s maiden name.

by LJRotter on May 28, 2010 9:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Any relation? ;)

What nationality is that name?

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by Nate Parham on May 28, 2010 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm imagining either Appel or your grandma saying

“Shame on you if you step to ol’ dirty bastard & the Brooklyn Zoo”

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by Nate Parham on May 28, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Appel in!

Go Pac-10!

#WestsideTillIDie

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by Nate Parham on May 28, 2010 9:20 PM EDT reply actions  

I would like to note that that off rebound was not Appel's fault...

She boxed out the Ageless One and someone missed an assignment on K Greene…

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by Nate Parham on May 28, 2010 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel like a crazy person watching this game on the laptop

with the Boston/Orlando game on the big screen, on mute.

by LJRotter on May 28, 2010 9:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Good crazy? ;)

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by Nate Parham on May 28, 2010 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

basketball crazy.

dunno whether it’s good or bad.

by LJRotter on May 28, 2010 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very!

They’re great in transition…

Too many jumpshot in the halfcourt…

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by Nate Parham on May 28, 2010 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed.

sounds OH so painfully familiar.

by LJRotter on May 28, 2010 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Halftime of the Women's Lacrosse game...

so I thought I’d pop in and say hey to all you Swish Appealers!

by DishNSwish on May 28, 2010 9:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Hi

Lacrosse is definitely a NE type thing..

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by Nate Parham on May 28, 2010 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

YEAH it is

I managed the boys lax team at my high school for 3 years :)

by LJRotter on May 28, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's kinda funny-

We did lacrosse one day in PE in middle school (in California)…

If it wasn’t for that, I’d have never held a stick…

I went to one game in DC actually – my cousin played one year but he was more frail than I and couldn’t take the hits…

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by Nate Parham on May 28, 2010 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

The funny thing...

is that because I considered it a privileged elitist sport, I assumed it was a soft sport…

How wrong I was as a child…

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by Nate Parham on May 28, 2010 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Although Northwestern...

has won the women’s NCAA tourney like 8 straight years. They’re tied with UNC at half. But yeah, it’s an east coast game right now.

But Bria Hartley, soon to be UConn PG is a hoops/lax player

by DishNSwish on May 28, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is she playing both?

At UConn?

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by Nate Parham on May 28, 2010 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

Just wanted to be sure…

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by Nate Parham on May 28, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kelly Schumacher told Geno she wanted to play volleyball and basketball

when he was recruiting her. He said something along the lines of, “That’s fine. If you stink at basketball, you can go play volleyball and i won’t have to deal with you.” Kelly’s trying to break into po beach volleyball this summer.

Tara let a couple of players play both at Stanford, but by the time Candice Wiggins came she wasn’t allowing it anymore.

by Scotter on May 28, 2010 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah it's definitely one of the things they needed to improve..

But SASS too… so it could be a function of that…?

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by Nate Parham on May 28, 2010 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

And here I thought..

SA was going to go youth movement this year!

Riley, Claw, Becky, Darling, Snow…damn, that team is almost as old as the Sparks!

by DishNSwish on May 28, 2010 9:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah it's crazy..

it’s like they lost VJ and got older..

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by Nate Parham on May 28, 2010 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

uh oh

this is getting tense now

by LJRotter on May 28, 2010 9:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Whoa two point game...

Some Liberty fans would claim this is typical liberty…

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by Nate Parham on May 28, 2010 9:54 PM EDT reply actions  

crap....

The liberty’s defense is still suspect

by az25blue on May 28, 2010 9:55 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Sandy looks like she's about to explode!

and I don’t mean in anger…wow that’s a lot of baby!

by DishNSwish on May 28, 2010 9:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah - I know...

Candace Parker has nothing on Brondello!

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by Nate Parham on May 28, 2010 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

sandy is no joke!

she plans on taking off 3 whole games after she gives birth

by az25blue on May 28, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok so these ladies need to hang out in the gym

and shoot free throws. this 1-2 crap is unacceptable.

by LJRotter on May 28, 2010 10:00 PM EDT reply actions  

you're tough!

Enjoy the win New yorker!

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by Nate Parham on May 28, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

wheee

ok I’m OUT. good game, friends!

by LJRotter on May 28, 2010 10:03 PM EDT reply actions  

A lot of basketball tonight...

need to check out the Celtics game..then heading to the Mercury thread..

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by Nate Parham on May 28, 2010 10:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Still believe that Cappie should start at PG

Mitchell is a huge liability if she’s not hitting shots and it’s looking more and more like her rookie season was a fluke (I believe so; she didn’t shoot the ball all that well against the major conference teams she faced while at Utah). She scored well early on in the game, but being guarded by Lawson-Wade isn’t really going to slow a player down (just ask Kristi Toliver). When Becky Hammon (I love Hammon, but she isn’t a defensive standout; just does enough to get by in that system) took the assignment, Mitchell scored far fewer points. If she’s not hitting shots on one end and not defending on the other end, she’s not worth having on the floor. She racks up the assists, but that’s a large byproduct of the system. If I played alongside Powell, I’d average at least four myself (and I’m not anywhere near as talented as these players).

What Anne Donovan needs to do is return Mitchell to the bench and bring her in for Carson. Mitchell really shouldn’t see the floor much at the beginning of games or at the tail end of games. She nearly cost NY a victory last night and DID cost them one against Washington.

by just checkin on May 29, 2010 5:25 PM EDT reply actions  

I challenge you to post one positive comment on this site ;)

Seriously though, I think it might be a stretch to identify Mitchell as the problem.

This team settles for a LOT of jump shots and it doesn’t matter who’s running point as long as they continue to do so. They have proven solid in transition — their posts are beating opposing posts down the floor — and when going to the rim.

Could we blame the jump shots on a pg that can’t slash through the defense and force shifts that leave shooters open? maybe.. but with Cappie on the wing, she’s just as effective as doing that from there (see Phx Mercury 2009). So I’m not sure Mitchell is necessarily the issue.. the team probably just needs more time.. they showed MUCH improvement yesterday beating an improving SASS team on the road… ;)

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by Nate Parham on May 29, 2010 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

The biggest knock on Mitchell is her defense

She can’t play it effectively because she’s too small and lacks speed (and her stance is really poor). But the same can be said of Hammon, yet Hammon has looked a lot better defensively this year than has Mitchell. So I see this as a major issue. She starts off as just half a player. If she’s going to be on the court, she HAS to hit shots. Shooting 10% from three is not an option. Otherwise, you have no choice but to go with a player who can at least defend one of the five positions on the court. I have to wonder why Carson or Greene haven’t been given more minutes. They have their flaws, but their weaknesses aren’t magnified like Mitchell’s are.

I think Mitchell is a decent-enough back-up PG on this team—maybe. But playing her 30 mpg is going to kill this team in the long run. With Cappie on board, there just isn’t any justification for doing so.

by just checkin on May 29, 2010 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

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