WNBA Playoffs Game Thread
Day 2 of the WNBA Playoff's features the Fever @ Mystics and then my own Mercury @ Silver Stars
I wish I had more to say about the first game. Should be a good one? Yeah, I'm not sure about that. If Katie D is a healthy beast then there really should be no stopping the Fever. Of course, if I were a Fever fan I would be damn worried about how inconsistently my team has been playing.
As for the Merc / Silver Stars match....well, I've said my peace. And then some.
Now it's time to get it on and see what this Mercury team really has under the hood. I can tell you without a doubt that they've been holding back over the pas few weeks. Expect to see more coherent rotations, a quicker hook for players who's shots aren't falling and some nifty new sets that we've only seen a couple of times in the regular season. Coach Gaines has over 70 plays in his book and he's not been using more then the basic stuff of late.
Defensively, I have no idea beyond what Bridget talked about the other day. Less helping off the Stars front line and perhaps a mix of defenders on Becky to keep her off balance?
And of course the best defense is a good offense! At least that's what they teach in the Phoenix area schools.
Latin D will be running a Black and Silver themed game thread over at Pounding the Rock and Cheryl from Hoop Feed will be covering the game live. Be sure to check in with them throughout the evening. I'll be back with a recap later tonight.
Have fun and join in!
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Fever off to a slow start?
I’m still in the office so I’m not seeing this game. What’s going on here?
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Need to be watching the Fever game....
… but I will be here on the game thread with you tonight Stan…
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Here’s my completely ridiculous game thread.
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Only ridiculous
b/c you are a San Antonio fan...oops. Sorry. I swore of trash talking for this series!
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by Seth Pollack on Sep 17, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Stan, you are free to trash talk here.
I’ll moderate.
Nothing better than unrestricted sports passion. ;)
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Yeah. And you’d better get that trashtalking in early… when you still can. :)
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Nah
you see I trashed talked all those Suns vs Spurs playoff series and….well you know how that turned out. I am trying something different. Nice
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by Seth Pollack on Sep 17, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Kill 'em with kindness.
Man… those games really left a scar on you man.
That’s the good thing about rooting for a team like the Warriors that just keeps losing… never disappointed!
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Fan faith is powerful…
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no joke
Tim Duncan’s three keeps me up at night
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by Seth Pollack on Sep 17, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Briann January
Looks like the rookie came to play. Actually, a good night for rookies on both sides. Marissa Coleman is helping keep Washington in the game and Christina Wirth was +19 (!) at last check.
That's my home girl!
Love Briann. What a great kid
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by Seth Pollack on Sep 17, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Was about to dog
the Fever for letting the Mystics back into this one until Catchings went all MVP candidate …I’m just not impressed w/ either of these teams though despite so great individual talent
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Especially in a best of 3…
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I hate this overlap
How hard is it to schedule a few extra minutes between these games? grrrrr
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Well it would be nice if they just didn’t start the other game until this one was over…don’t other leagues do that?
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Hey guys
Meet Max – Mercury photographer extraordinaire! This is the guy behind the camera taking all those great shots of the Merc
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by Seth Pollack on Sep 17, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
And in Argentina ESPN+ has people skying. I hate everyone.
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dang
you cant see the game at all? That sucks. Time to move to Texas
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by Seth Pollack on Sep 17, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ll try to watch it later from an archive. I usually find it somewhere. But I can’t watch it live, and that’s just sad. Losses are painful to watch.
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At least I have the audio feed.
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I’m old school. Really, really old school.
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better than
just being old like me
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by Seth Pollack on Sep 17, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Ketia Swanier for 3?
A couple of weeks ago she was turning down wide open shots
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Let's not get too thrilled just yet
She’s streaky. A few weeks ago she was tossing up junk shots for no obvious reason.
yeah
she’s trying to do too much…which is really strange and out of character for her
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by Seth Pollack on Sep 17, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, Corey
hasn’t tightened his rotations so far in this series. So far, no reason to.
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She's still a rookie
so it’s ok. I can’t wait to see her develop some offense, and maybe some coordination.
It's also the downside
of GAines try everything for a little bit of time defensive strategy. Too many things going on…too easy to get lost
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by Seth Pollack on Sep 17, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
You’re almost forcing me to start talking about the rookie of the year race with that comment. PShizzy… I don’t want to fight Stan on the first day of SwishAppeal… ;)
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CP Clutch
I swear there’s only a couple of NBA players I would rather have the ball in their hand w/ the clock winding down.
Kobe. Nash. Granger…Cappie
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not yet
maybe next year he’ll be on the list
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by Seth Pollack on Sep 17, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, of course. Which he has been for years, before a really crappy year… But I’ve had many pre-Spurs years to enjoy him. :)
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Don’t worry yet… you know this team has these awesome spurts…
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Right but we need to stop
digging ourselves into a hole in the first half. However, we seem to spring back in the 3rd. Hey Stan, maybe we should ask for halftime access. That speech must be amazing.
Crossley still shooting well. Bless my ears.
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I'll say this
I bagged on Tangela Smith all year for her defense but she’s playing a lot better tonight
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Defensive rotations are really off for Pho right now…
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defense is over rated
this is Phoenix basketball. Rope-a-dope. They want you to think you can score for a little while so you let your defense slack and then it’s too late
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by Seth Pollack on Sep 17, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Got it.. thanks for informing me…
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I hate it
but what can I do, move to Texas?
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by Seth Pollack on Sep 17, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Not an option.
We should be nice to Texas though… there has to be something good about it…right?
BBQ?
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oil?
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by Seth Pollack on Sep 17, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Austin is supposed to be nice
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by Seth Pollack on Sep 17, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
And have you ever been to that River Walk? It’s nice..for a night of debauchery.
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fake
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by Seth Pollack on Sep 17, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Not exactly. Mr. Robert Hugman was a visionary.
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed. - CMoney
I don't like chatty. I don't do chatty. I like quiet. Quiet and mean. Those are my people. - Nurse Jackie
fake... as in Lake Havasu?
fake and debauchery are synonyms.
This season will be even better as long as I'm drinking while watching!
exactly
fake like that…
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by Seth Pollack on Sep 18, 2009 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Argentina does have excellent beef… man… no Texans to help me out, huh?
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Hey, that’s the city of the team I root for, man… ….never mind, carry on.
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Or rather, the state where that city is. You know what I mean.
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At some point this post season
Willingham is finally going to be benched for Taylor
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They are afraid
of losing certain players who would be…upset by that move but you didn’t hear that from me
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by Seth Pollack on Sep 17, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I seriously love Sofia Young
Like, don’t tell my wife but she’s amazing
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And Becky isn’t even shooting well… Be afraid?
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No need to fear
Dewanna is scoring. DT and Cappie haven’t even warmed up yet. They’ll come through in the third, watch
Great pass by VJ! wow...
or…terrible D by Pho
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You and my new
best friend Scotter!
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by Seth Pollack on Sep 17, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I was just having fun.
I understand taking Angel for ROY. They’re both in good situations for their abilities. Neither would be doing as well on the other’s team.
Why are you encouraging him Scotter? WHY? :)
Bonner 6WOTY…Angel ROY
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What aspects of P Taylor’s game have fallen off during her hiatus?
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Honestly I didn't see her play before this year
but she has these moments where you can see she can take her defender 1 on 1, but she won’t. I think it’s a mindset. I even say that about DT though, whom I did see play last year. Last year DT was straight thuggin, working the post and going to the basket. Now she’s working her midrange jumper
I think her
lateral speed is less and just timing…but I also think her role is different now. If she were starting and getting more minutes she’d look better
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by Seth Pollack on Sep 17, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I will.
As soon as you tell me that Angel is the more versatile player.
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more versitile?
your just kidding me right
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by Seth Pollack on Sep 17, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Offensively… like she can actually put the ball on the floor and take it to the basket… and pass…
Defensively, Bonner is better on help, Angel on ball…
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REBOUNDING
look at all those extra possessions DB gets. Angel is obviously the better offensive player but DB is can do more things on the floor to help her team
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by Seth Pollack on Sep 17, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Let’s return to an earlier question: who would you rather have with the ball in their hands with the clock running down?
Really, I think it’s almost a wash… I say Angel, but Bonner has a good argument.
Grant Hill and Jason Kidd won co-rookie of the year…. I think this year is appropriate for that…
Bonner definitely 6WOY though… McCoughtry was not a very good bench player…
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by Nate Parham on Sep 17, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Ruth blocking Bonner? Awesome.
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foul!
she pushed her in the back w/ the off hand. More cheating from the Black and Silver… More hard nose defense by the Black and Silver
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by Seth Pollack on Sep 17, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
finish that sentence
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by Seth Pollack on Sep 17, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
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by Seth Pollack on Sep 17, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s great… she is an amazing athelete…Gruda can get up too…
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by Nate Parham on Sep 17, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
2nd quarter stats...
Mercury managed to stay in this game despite shooting 34% in the 2nd to SA’s 42%…..
PHO’s 50% oreb% probably helped…
1 turnover (PHO) between the two teams.. .I’d say a pretty good game…
3 pt shooting was part of the difference in the 2nd quarter though: Phoenix 1 for 6, SAS 3 for 5
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high scoring game
favors Phx…that depth really coming in handy
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by Seth Pollack on Sep 17, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
So I was watching Game 3 of the Bulls/Knicks series in 1994 on NBA TV today.
That game is memorable for a Derek Harper/Jo Jo English fight that spilled several rows into the stands right in front of David Stern’s seat. And for Pippen refusing to enter the game when the last shot was drawn up for Kukoc, and then Kukoc hit the game winner with Pippen on the bench. As a Bulls fan that one full season without MJ was one my favorite seasons.
Anyway watching the game I realized that Corey Gaines was on my TV screen playing for the Knicks sporting quite a bit of hair. He played his only 4 playoff games in that series. Thanks to Derek Harper getting thrown out of the game for fighting and the suspension.
Ah my Knicks. The good old days
when you could play defense legally. Now everything is a handcheck.
by Max Simbron on Sep 17, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow… I didn’t even realize that…
And I didn’t realize that was all one game…
Gotta get a pic of Gaines from that game somewhere…
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by Nate Parham on Sep 17, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I had forgotten that fight took place in the same game as the Pippen/Kukoc stuff as well.
The fight took me by surprise. Probably as a result of trying to erase the memory of Jo Jo English playing the playoffs.
Don't worry --
somewhere Jo Jo is smiling proudly that he has been remembered…
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by Nate Parham on Sep 17, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Some one needs to
level Diana so she gets pissed off and starts making those shots
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10 and 4 isnt bad
we need Cappie to turn it up, she was 1-5 in the first half
by Max Simbron on Sep 17, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Is Willingham one of the most underrated players in the league?
Or do I just notice her when she’s doing well…
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underrated as in fans not talking about her much…
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by Nate Parham on Sep 17, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
no
she’s not that good….she’s can finish but she is not a good defender or rebounder
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by Seth Pollack on Sep 17, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
she
does have very nice foot work and good touch around the basket but I don’t like the way she plays…not enough fight
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by Seth Pollack on Sep 17, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
look right ther
how does she not get that rebound?
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by Seth Pollack on Sep 17, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
And Stan knows a ‘not good defender and rebounder’ when he sees it.
We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Sep 17, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
that's Phx basketball baby!
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by Seth Pollack on Sep 17, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Very underrated offensively
but her defense and size sorta balance that out
by Max Simbron on Sep 17, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
TJ needs to calm down...
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If we can keep itclose, and our 3s start falling
We can win. But we may want to consider rebounding.
Possibly… it’s been successful for basketball teams in the past…
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by Nate Parham on Sep 17, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I just don't like
the way Phx is playing…too soft. Not enough intensity or urgency. Bring. Back. Bonner.
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Ya, wasn't she our leading scorer
off the bench?? She needed to at least start the second half
by Max Simbron on Sep 17, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Still is leading scorer…. :/
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by Nate Parham on Sep 17, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Well they’re not getting out in the open court much..and SAS is getting back well… PHO forcing bad shots…
TJ has taken 2 bad ones early in this quarter…
VERY stagnant in the half court…
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by Nate Parham on Sep 17, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
it's a cumulative effect
when teams hit their threes, it slows down our offense. but misses mean long rebounds and fast breaks
by Max Simbron on Sep 17, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
An outside observer, it's seemed like
they have too much depth for the team’s own good. Having Taylor back is great, she’s ridiculously underrated because of her efficiency, but it gives Gaines too many balls to juggle if everyone stays in the rotation. There aren’t many coaches good at handling deep rotations.
agree
I think he’s got to tighten it up….more Taylor, Bonner and Ohlde. Less Smith and LeCoe
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by Seth Pollack on Sep 17, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
So… no one’s rooting for the Stars? :)
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Neutral observer...
I’m actually one of those crazy people that thinks Hammon deserves strong consideration for MVP….
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by Nate Parham on Sep 17, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Hear hear, Q. How is the MVP decided in the W?
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media voting
each city w/ a team gets two votes for select media and then there’s 10 or so votes for national media types like Michele Voepel and Nancy Lieberman
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by Seth Pollack on Sep 17, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Hm. I wonder how the whole “playing for the Russian NT” thing will affect Becky’s chances, this year and in the future.
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Can someone twitter Corey
let him know he has some timeouts he can use, ya know, to break the momentum?
Yes
more of Ohlde in the post. It will open up the perimeter for DT and CP and PT
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wow nice roll
and good call by the commentator: they should play Ohlde instead of Lecoe
by Max Simbron on Sep 17, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
The crazy thing is I'm not afraid for the Mercury right now...
they still haven’t had their spurt…
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I am VERY afraid
San Antonio saps my faith
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by Seth Pollack on Sep 17, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
We might need to raise money for some therapy for you.
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by Nate Parham on Sep 17, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
that is no joke
Duncan for three!!! ahhhhhh
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by Seth Pollack on Sep 17, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
You're right
It’s funny but coming back too early, like in the third, can be a problem, because we let teams back in. A 4th quarter comeback almost makes more sense, and makes for a more exciting game
by Max Simbron on Sep 17, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
When Taurasi decides to take over...
…there’s really not much an opponent can do…
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I know... and I understand she wants to be more of a team player
but sometimes you just need to impose your will.
by Max Simbron on Sep 17, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
exaclty
time for her or Cappie to step it up
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by Seth Pollack on Sep 17, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
They can be 10 points ahead. :)
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3rd quarter stats...
PHO shot 33.3% in the 3rd…SAS 41.2%
0-5 from 3…
Handling business on the offensive boards…
An evenly played quarter… and if PHO could get anything going from the outside they’d have a good chance…
OR again… if DT decides to just go to the bucket every time, I’m not sure who could stop her…
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missed 11 3's in a row
that’s just horrible
by Max Simbron on Sep 17, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
and somehow with one three (finally)
we cut the lead to 3… wow
by Max Simbron on Sep 17, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
ATTN: Corey Gaines
Notice how Dan Hughes called a timeout when we got to within one possession to tie?
That’s called a momentum killing time out. Try it some time.
You and your interventionist basketball strategy...
He’s just waiting for the game to adjust itself…
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by Nate Parham on Sep 17, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I can only think of a handful of coaches that can let it ride
Phil Jackson (a few rings tend to give people the impression you know what you’re doing), Pop (San Antonio is a system team. They know it by now), maybe a few others…
by Max Simbron on Sep 17, 2009 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
It is a VERY good thing
I don’t play for this team. I have NO faith when it comes to SA. I wouldn’t even want to be there covering the game
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This is all setting the game up for Sophia’s 3-point dagger at the buzzer. Called it!
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anyone but
TIM DUNCAN
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by Seth Pollack on Sep 17, 2009 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
shhh
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by Seth Pollack on Sep 17, 2009 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s alright. LatinD threw the big jinx on the Stars. This is a done deal.
We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Sep 17, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I have an idea
What if you start saying positive things about SA? Maybe that will reverse the curse?
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by Nate Parham on Sep 17, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
lets not push it
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by Seth Pollack on Sep 17, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
the oldest player in the WNBA
is younger than me. ugh
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by Seth Pollack on Sep 17, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey at least you're younger than
Brett Favre.
Of course, so are pyramids… methusela…Earth… etc
by Max Simbron on Sep 17, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
my arm is healthier too
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by Seth Pollack on Sep 17, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
If Lawson-Wade is getting orebs...
You might as well just leave the court…
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*shudders*
I can’t wait for one of them to get bitched at by the likes of AI and Ron Artest
by Max Simbron on Sep 17, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Ummmm....
OK….
Someone explain the last 30 seconds to me…
Why no foul?
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good game for the Silver Stars
they played harder and make their shots
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by Seth Pollack on Sep 17, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly
and what’s with Cappie going crazy like they won?
by Max Simbron on Sep 17, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Are the Mercury really smiling?
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by Nate Parham on Sep 17, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Ya, the thought it was a 3 pt lead instead of a 4 I guess
so let’s see… the team didn’t manage the clock well and didn’t understand what the score
wonder who to blame for that?
by Max Simbron on Sep 17, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
BTW have I mentioned
how much I hate that the home team has to go on the road for the first game? Who came up with that?
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by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Sep 17, 2009 11:09 PM EDT reply actions
do you really think I am going to click that?
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by Seth Pollack on Sep 17, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, you should. I think it is the perfect sound bite.
We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Sep 17, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Do they display the score
on some kind off “board” in lights in that arena. SMH…
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No, they can't afford that
or letting home teams start at home… what’s that called again?? home… court.. something
by Max Simbron on Sep 17, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Is math a
required skill in basketball? It would seem so
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Sophia Young
was great – it seemed she couldn’t miss anything in the fourth. I do not know why anybody but her from stars was taking the shot.
And yes, I was surprised by Mercury’s tactics at the end – letting stars to shoot at the end of shot clock, not that I’m complaining…
Indeed
she is amazing
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by Seth Pollack on Sep 17, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, guys, I had fun. Thanks for letting me hang in here. I’ll come back. :)
Straight from the No-Stat Zone to your computer!
Dunkin' Cheerleaders
Yes, maybe you'll see
DT or Cappie show up. Might be useful.
by Max Simbron on Sep 17, 2009 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I think I had enough of that duo in the regular season…
Straight from the No-Stat Zone to your computer!
Dunkin' Cheerleaders
lets see
Taylor and Bonner combine for 33 while Willingham and Smith have 10. Who’s getting the minutes?
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Good thing
The Office starts tonight….even better thing that I never expected to win in SA
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well guys
great inaugural game thread for Swish Appeal….be back on Saturday.
Imma gonna watch some Office then re watch that last quarter then try and write something coherent about this game….thx
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Good luck!
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by Nate Parham on Sep 17, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Run and GUn
I dont think any team can run and gun in san antonio’s arena cuz its so dark. lol
it seems so depressing and slow

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