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WNBA Finals Game 4: Preview and Game Thread

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See Phoenix Stan's Game 4 preview here and more of the day's perspectives on the game from around the web here.

Game Time: 7.30 pm Local

As has happened many times before, the Phoenix Mercury face elimination in today's Game 4 of the 2009 WNBA Finals. 

There's really no reason to favor either team today.  In fact, there's at least a dozen reasons to figure the Fever will win this one and close out the chip at home.  There's also another dozen good reasons to think the Mercury will return to form, get this one and send it back to Phoenix. 

Regardless, I am fully convinced that either the Fever or the Mercury will win this game and that this will be another great game in a great series. 

Let's keep it right here as we evaluate the teams' state of mind and their adjustments for the game.

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Game 3 Review: I've seen this movie before

I've seen this movie before.  It's the one where the amazing offensive team comes in to blow away the poor shooting team but suffers a reversal.  The poor shooting team somehow manages above 50% shooting from long range while the stunning offensive team backfires.  

Who knew the lousy offensive team could do that? Who knew the offensive juggernaut would sputter just below the top of the hill? 

The last time I saw that movie, it was the Suns vs. the Spurs and I didn't like the ending.

Here, the players are completely different, but some of the strategies are the same.  But somehow the Fever shot 10-21 from 3 compared to 3-17 for the Mercury and that made the game close, and ultimately swayed it in the Fever's favor. 

I say "somehow" with sarcasm, as the "how" is obvious.  The Fever aggressively denied the outside shots while allowing the Mercury to get 52 points inside.  The Mercury, however, didn't have the same plan and the Fever were able to work the Mercury defense for open shots from 3. 

On paper, the Mercury appeared to outwork the Fever in every statistical category.  But at least in the case of rebounding, the poor shooting of the Mercury may have had something to do with them out-rebounding the Fever.  Long shots, long rebounds and all that. 

Also, in spite of Lin Dunn's taking credit for the Mercury's poor 3 point shooting, the Mercury still got off 17 shots.  While the Merc didn't make many of those, it's not clear how much is related to the team's wonky rifle scopes and how much is really related to Fever players running the Mercury off the three point line a la Spurs.

The Mercury

The bad vibe from the Mercury camp centers on their persistent complaints about calls and about not getting to the line enough.  In the absence of three point plays from the outside, Coach Corey Gaines is looking for three point plays of the "And 1" kind and had this to say at Monday's practice

We could have won the game. We shot poorly, no free throws in the fourth quarter.  Cappie [Pondexter] didn't shoot a free throw the entire game.  It's kind of amazing that an All-WNBA First Team player who attacked the basket at least 20 times a game didn't go the line once. You look at those things - it makes you feel a bit better.

This is more than a complaint, it appears to be a Mercury strategic focus as Coach Bridget Pettis says

We want to get to the free throw line more than 12 times and we know that’s an option they’ve scored off throughout the year. If we get to the paint and free throw line a little more, then they [Cappie, Diana & Penny] can get back to their point totals.

Gaines appears to be planning to call more Free-Throw-inducing plays?

I need to get my team to the free throw line and shoot more free throws. We shot zero free throws in the fourth quarter [of Game 3].  So I need to get them in better position to get free throws. That’s my fault.

Maybe this chiding the refs or calling for more plays that involve contact will help.  But, at the championship level, basing any strategy on referee cooperation is a piss-poor one. 

Getting refs to call fouls your way when you need them is a vastly lower probability than the Mercury's abysmal last game 3 of 17 three point shooting percentage.  The refs are just not going to hand you the title on the opponents' home court before a sellout crowd of rabid Midwesterners.   Last time I checked, the refs weren't counted against the Mercury salary cap.

While I respect the Mercury's intention to be even more aggressive, depending on the refs is so PHAIL.  It's hard to imagine we are talking about champions here.

Speaking of champions, who are we to question the heart of a champion?  The good vibe is that in between all of the game interviews, the Mercury are solid in who they are and what they do.  They are not questioning themselves, they are chomping at the bit for another shot at the Fever.  As Taurasi says,

This team has never been tight, with the personalities we have, that are not how we play. We play at our best when we’re loose and having fun out there. That’s when we play the most creative and effective basketball so we’re going to have to get back to that. I think we’ve lost that, a little bit. Sometimes you get caught up in the end result without going through every little step, so we just have to get back to the basics.

It's likely that the Mercury will make only small adjustments and come back fresh, fearless and fully locked and loaded.  This will be especially true of the Mercury's bench which has struggled

Turns out that Sixth Woman of the Year DeWanna Bonner's lackluster showing on Sunday (2 points, 2 rebounds, 2 turnovers in 9 minutes) was likely due to illness and that she should bounce back tonight.  The Mercury hope the same for Penny Taylor.

Of those small adjustments, which include more attempts to get to the charity stripe and better offensive execution, it's hard not to wonder what, if anything, the Mercury are thinking about doing defensively.  True, they've lost the last 2 games by less than six points, so a small offensive gain might be enough.  But a small defensive gain might actually be easier to come by.  

The Mercury need to think hard and long about contesting leading Finals scorer Ebony Hoffman's shots. Taurasi describes the defensive issues as:

Defensively, we were solid; we did the things we wanted to do. But it was a couple of those key situations that they took advantage of. Like, we get three stops in a row, but they get three offensive rebounds in a row and Katie Douglas hits a 3 in the corner. Things like that break your back as a team.

We play a set perfectly: pick-and-roll, switch, they dive, we have it … [but] we leave Ebony [Hoffman] wide-open in the corner with a bad rotation. Things like that kill you at the end of games, and they're the things that stand out the most.

Of course, I'm reminded of the old folk song, "There's a hole in the bucket".  You slow Ebony, but then there's Katie, Tamika, Briann....  But for now, it's a question whether the Mercury can spare some extra defensive effort to force Ebony to put the ball on the floor and show you she can finish off the dribble-drive. 

Here's how Briann January and Ebony Hoffman have been killing the Mercury this series, from David Woods at the Indianapolis Star:

Who Season (pts)
Finals (pts)
Fever 76.6 98.3
Hoffman 9.9 20.3*
January 6.9 14.7

 

*current leading scorer in the WNBA Finals

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The Fever

While the Mercury try to stay calm and loose in the face of elimination, the watch word in Feverland is "Dont Relax".  The bad news is that, no matter how much they try to psyche themselves out, the Fever already know they can win in Phoenix.  They did it once, they almost did it twice. They can talk all they want about this being a must-win game, that the game will be super-tough because the Mercury will be playing desperate, that they've won nothing yet, but for the Fever this is a nice-to-have, nice-to-win game, not a must-win game.  Sorry.

The good news is that as with any well-coached team, they are likely to stay focused.  They're up 2-1 with a chance to close out on their home floor in front of the biggest home crowd the Fever has ever played for.   Lin Dunn is looking for the team to do better boxing out and rebounding and to keep up the three point denial defense, but otherwise there's no reason to change what has been working for the team. If the Mercury regain their shooting touch, then perhaps there will be more to discuss on the Fever side. 

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Great points about

Gaines relying on the ref’s. He’s right in the sense that in many situations his team would have gotten those calls and the outcome probably would have been different but you can’t rely on that. You have to take care of business and the Mercury didn’t do that in Game 2.

If they had played hard in Game 2 and got beat, that would be one thing but I can’t feel sorry for them not getting calls when your team doesn’t give a full effort in a Finals game.

How does that even happen?

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by Seth Pollack on Oct 7, 2009 5:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Haven't they mentioned over-confidence a few times?

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by Q McCall on Oct 7, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My feeling hasn't changed

I said Fever in 4 before the series started, and I still think that’s how it ends. Indiana just isn’t a good matchup for the Merc.

I don’t think shooting touch is the whole answer either. They shot right at their season average in Game 3 and they’re well above it for the series, and it’s still one bucket from being a sweep.

by pilight on Oct 7, 2009 6:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

bad matchup is RIGHT

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by Malcolm Wells on Oct 7, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Will give you props if they win tonight sir :)

Clearly, Merc in 4 ain’t happening… ;)

But here’s the real question: did you have the Fever winning Game 1 or 2 in Phoenix?

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by Q McCall on Oct 7, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

1 or 2

I figured Game 1 was a little more likely, but I expected a split either way.

by pilight on Oct 7, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am going to have to go dark for this one

I am not going to be able to watching this for a few hours once I get home (thank you Tivo!) so I am going to avoid the score and watch it live in my personal time zone….

Catch you later, folks

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by Seth Pollack on Oct 7, 2009 7:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So...

We should text you updates?

by pilight on Oct 7, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The refs are

Denise Brooks
Michael Price
Kurt Walker

Hey, two guys from the replacement list!

by pilight on Oct 7, 2009 7:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good lord... how does Kurt Walker get to do a Finals game?

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by Q McCall on Oct 7, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ugh

2 fouls in the first 23 seconds.

by pilight on Oct 7, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lieberman picks the Mercury...

Hard not to just hope for a Game 5…

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by Q McCall on Oct 7, 2009 7:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If the Fever win...

…there’s nobody else you could possibly pick… unless January explodes for like 50 tonight…

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by Q McCall on Oct 7, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

deuces

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by Malcolm Wells on Oct 7, 2009 7:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow... great start again...

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by Q McCall on Oct 7, 2009 7:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I love when teams try and trap

Cappie on the perimeter…she just attacks the big and creates havoc

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by Seth Pollack on Oct 7, 2009 7:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

and yes

I am watching on ESPN360 at work

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by Seth Pollack on Oct 7, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good to hear it...

You gotta see this one live!

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by Q McCall on Oct 7, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

damn!

my feed just died

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by Seth Pollack on Oct 7, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hot start

Can the Merc keep shooting 80%?

by pilight on Oct 7, 2009 7:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Tangela Smith

is either on or she’s off…she can go 80% for one game and 10% the next

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by Seth Pollack on Oct 7, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

branuary for the asist!

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by Malcolm Wells on Oct 7, 2009 8:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

the Merc wanted calls...

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by Malcolm Wells on Oct 7, 2009 8:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

well

They’re leading, it seems to be working

by pilight on Oct 7, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

SWISH

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by Malcolm Wells on Oct 7, 2009 8:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ok

my ESPN 360 feed sucks….going to have to bail and catch this one later

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by Seth Pollack on Oct 7, 2009 8:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

she wasn't sick

in Games 1 and 2 or in the last series…..her coach said it was rookie nerves

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by Seth Pollack on Oct 7, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok

for real…I am out this time. Headed home to watch the rest of the game

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by Seth Pollack on Oct 7, 2009 8:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

fun stat

The Fever are undefeated in the playoffs when trailing at the end of the first quarter.

by pilight on Oct 7, 2009 8:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This post-season or all-time?

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by Q McCall on Oct 7, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

only one

This post season. They are 1-0.

by pilight on Oct 7, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

got me… :)

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by Q McCall on Oct 7, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

rope-a-dope!

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by Malcolm Wells on Oct 7, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow.. Taurasi with nice D on TSB...

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by Q McCall on Oct 7, 2009 8:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

love branuary's game

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by Malcolm Wells on Oct 7, 2009 8:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

How can one not?

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by Q McCall on Oct 7, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How is she as an interview?

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by Q McCall on Oct 7, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

yeah, you said that… need to listen to that…

Must get another interview with her… ask her if she’ll legally change her name to October…

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by Q McCall on Oct 7, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thats a great one!

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by Malcolm Wells on Oct 7, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

will do if they win

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by Malcolm Wells on Oct 7, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Of course...

:)

would be only a little obnoxious if they win, completely obnoxious if they lose…

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by Q McCall on Oct 7, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well

Next year’s Finals will probably be in September, thanks to the World Championships.

by pilight on Oct 7, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok...so...

Briann September-October?

Maybe this is finally getting ridiculous… ;)

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by Q McCall on Oct 7, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that does make it complicated.

Briann Postseason?

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by Malcolm Wells on Oct 7, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but then it loses it's the word play power...

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by Q McCall on Oct 7, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

October with the great pass to Catchings...

wow..

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by Q McCall on Oct 7, 2009 8:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow Mercury looking really fluid on offense

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by Q McCall on Oct 7, 2009 8:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah

And they’re leading. The game they won in the series was the one with the most fouls called.

by pilight on Oct 7, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And more importantly, the free throw differential

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by Q McCall on Oct 7, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, fellas. How’s it looking so far?

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by LatinD on Oct 7, 2009 8:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

what else is new, right?

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by Malcolm Wells on Oct 7, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

3 PFs for Taurasi? Oops.

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by LatinD on Oct 7, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can you see the game?

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by Q McCall on Oct 7, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup. I’m trying something new called UltraSurf. So far it’s working.

Thanks. :)

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by LatinD on Oct 7, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shall we start the Catch triple-double watch?

Behind in assists….but not impossible…

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by Q McCall on Oct 7, 2009 8:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Merc looking very frustrated....

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by Q McCall on Oct 7, 2009 8:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

spectacular tip by catch

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by Malcolm Wells on Oct 7, 2009 8:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe I haven't been watching the league long enough...

I’ve never seen Catch play this well…

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by Q McCall on Oct 7, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Crowd wants temekas blood

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by Malcolm Wells on Oct 7, 2009 8:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And Temeka wants January's by the looks of it from here...

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by Q McCall on Oct 7, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Temeka crowded her...

An elbow to the jaw is the consequence….

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by Q McCall on Oct 7, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

fun stat

The Fever are 3-1 in this postseason when trailing at the half. The one loss came in Game 1 of this series.

by pilight on Oct 7, 2009 8:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

OTOH

The Merc are 5-1 this postseason when leading at the half. The one loss came in Game 3 of this series.

by pilight on Oct 7, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow.. Taurasi's interview is great...

But no need for the subtle diss of soccer…

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by Q McCall on Oct 7, 2009 8:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

she knows football

She’s half Italian and half Argentine, she’s entitled to bask soccer

by pilight on Oct 7, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

typo

BASH soccer

by pilight on Oct 7, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm...

Fair enough… but not everyone will take it quite that way…

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by Q McCall on Oct 7, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Taurasi's fan moment at the 2008 Olympics was getting to meet a famous Argentian player.

She knows about kicking a ball. Should have seen her punt the basketball after winning the 2004 Championship.

by Scotter on Oct 7, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've seen her

punt a ball into the upper deck at US Airways after shoot around

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by Seth Pollack on Oct 7, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey guys!

Great game so far. I think the Mercury are in trouble though. They’re relying on their ability to outscore the Fever as opposed to preventing them from scoring.

by Mike Lisboa on Oct 7, 2009 8:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

heh

That’s Phoenix basketball.

They had a bigger lead at the half last game.

by pilight on Oct 7, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's worked all season long

but that’s b/c they’ve been able to wear teams out w/ the speed and then pull away late w/ a couple of minutes of intense D…

But in this series the longer time outs, a very fit Fever team, and Coach Dunn going deeper on her bench w/ Moore and Davenport has negated this

So far in this game all we know is that it’s another great game. I don’t think anything we’ve seen so far will matter except the potential foul trouble on DT

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by Seth Pollack on Oct 7, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

One big diff between 1st and 2nd quarter was oreb%...

Don’t have the second chance point stats… but would be interesting to see..

1st
Pho: 20%
Ind: 22%

2nd
Pho: 13%
Ind: 56%

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by Q McCall on Oct 7, 2009 8:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh lord

I wish they’d stop with the Merc being 3-0 when facing elimination. The Fever are 2-0 when they can eliminate an opponent…

by pilight on Oct 7, 2009 8:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ESPN: creating the simplest narratives possible

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by Q McCall on Oct 7, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

love the genius stats? =D

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by Malcolm Wells on Oct 7, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chippu?

Is that weird Indiana language? ;)

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by Q McCall on Oct 7, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chippy sry typo

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by Malcolm Wells on Oct 7, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Got it :)

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by Q McCall on Oct 7, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Phx going under screens

love it…they can fall in love w/ switching and zones

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by Seth Pollack on Oct 7, 2009 8:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Heat check DT

still not hot enough

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by Seth Pollack on Oct 7, 2009 8:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

make em hurt, temeka

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by Malcolm Wells on Oct 7, 2009 8:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No Swanier

at all tonight? Is she sick now or is Corey tightening the rotation?

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by Seth Pollack on Oct 7, 2009 9:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This should be a 7-game series.

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by LatinD on Oct 7, 2009 9:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

as great as this series

is I don’t like the 7 game series….too long

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by Seth Pollack on Oct 7, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well... I like it for a finals series...

Less so for a first round…

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by Q McCall on Oct 7, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes...

Definitely…

It’s criminal to end this in 5…

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by Q McCall on Oct 7, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow.

Spin by Taylor was sick. Too bad it didn’t go down.

by Mike Lisboa on Oct 7, 2009 9:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

the Hoff!

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by Malcolm Wells on Oct 7, 2009 9:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Man...

That conjures up images of imperial walkers and ton-tons…

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by Q McCall on Oct 7, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thankfully, not :)

But I have this pathological infatuation with Star Wars… which is a problem…

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by Q McCall on Oct 7, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who closes out this

quarter strongest should win the game

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by Seth Pollack on Oct 7, 2009 9:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wow

When was the last time the Merc had two shot clock violations in the same game?

by pilight on Oct 7, 2009 9:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I will say this

I am rooting for Phx of course but I am in no way rooting against Indiana….they are a fantastic team

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by Seth Pollack on Oct 7, 2009 9:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

can't say I wouldn't love to be in the Indy locker room for their first chip

and yes, these girls are worthy

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by Malcolm Wells on Oct 7, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I want a game 5

Regardless of my nominal Mercury alleigiance. I just want to watch another WNBA game before they call it a post-season.

by Mike Lisboa on Oct 7, 2009 9:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

There’s nothing like Chinese announcers to really bring the WNBA into perspective. :)

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by LatinD on Oct 7, 2009 9:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Tamika Catchings is the next gen WNBA player

chiseled.

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by Malcolm Wells on Oct 7, 2009 9:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

TIE GAME!

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Dino with the scoop shot!

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by Malcolm Wells on Oct 7, 2009 9:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

speaking of bad matchups

Why is Ohlde guarding Catch on the perimeter?

by pilight on Oct 7, 2009 9:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ohlde

is surprisingly mobile and she’s long…different look

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by Seth Pollack on Oct 7, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My dad had this crazy theory...

If there is a player who nobody is going to stop anyway, why waste a good defender on them?

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by Q McCall on Oct 7, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If the Fever

go on a run and Gaines doesn’t call a time out, I might just….be mad about it

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by Seth Pollack on Oct 7, 2009 9:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Can't lie

Really wish Taylor could have dunked on that breakaway steal. Does that mean I hate the WNBA?

by Mike Lisboa on Oct 7, 2009 9:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

no

it just means you hate women which of course means you love men….not that there’s anything wrong w/ that

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by Seth Pollack on Oct 7, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It means they need to lower the hoops.

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by LatinD on Oct 7, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

[ (average height of women) / (average height of men) ] * 10 feet = height of hoop in the WNBA

That’d make it just as difficult for women to dunk, and it doesn’t even take into account a possible athletic difference. Doesn’t it make sense? I honestly wonder, and I’m not trying to put down the league – just make it fairer.

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by LatinD on Oct 7, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like it this way

someone had the idea of lowering the rim but that would suck…

oh and I thought I read somewhere that Angel McCoughtry can dunk and she’s 6’

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by Seth Pollack on Oct 7, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, well, there’s also Brittney Griner. But this just doesn’t seem fair to me.

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by LatinD on Oct 7, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maya Moore the college player of the year can legitimately dunk and she is 6'.

Everything has to be just right for 6’ foot women’s player to do it though.

by Scotter on Oct 7, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nope... Hornacek almost never dunked either

lotsa players don’t dunk, and I wish JRich woouldnt

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by Malcolm Wells on Oct 7, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Foul. :)

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by LatinD on Oct 7, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hate?

I dunno about hate. If you watch enough women’s ball you get used to not seeing dunks.

by pilight on Oct 7, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gotta love Taurasi and Penny.

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by LatinD on Oct 7, 2009 9:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

is there no 3 second rule in the WNBA??

Davenport camped out in the paint

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by Malcolm Wells on Oct 7, 2009 9:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

sorta

There is a rule, but it doesn’t get called much.

by pilight on Oct 7, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They are putting heat on Taurasi's

back….going to have to ask about that

if there’s a game 5 that is

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by Seth Pollack on Oct 7, 2009 9:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow Davenport...

What have they done with her this year?

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by Q McCall on Oct 7, 2009 9:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Merc playing hard defense - not giving anything...

hope suns are watching this

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by Malcolm Wells on Oct 7, 2009 9:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

How was that not a foul?

She threw Ohlde to the ground

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by Seth Pollack on Oct 7, 2009 9:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

flagrant?

Looked like a flagrant to me

by pilight on Oct 7, 2009 9:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

And I might be a little defensive about January. ;)

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by Q McCall on Oct 7, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

this is no game for sissies

it aint your grandmas WNBA!

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by Malcolm Wells on Oct 7, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is that because...

My grandma’s WNBA was a 3 on 3 half court game played in a smock?

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by scotthoward42 on Oct 7, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heh.

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by LatinD on Oct 7, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice of January to be 2-5 from the line.

Much appreciated.

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by scotthoward42 on Oct 7, 2009 9:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Great assist from TJ to Cappie wide open 3

then Janaury froze over to close the 3rd

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by Malcolm Wells on Oct 7, 2009 9:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

My daughter

is now chanting “defense!” along w/ the TV.

It is so cute that I don’t mind she’s cheering the Fever

She just turned 3 and loves going to games

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by Seth Pollack on Oct 7, 2009 9:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

raising her right!!!

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by Malcolm Wells on Oct 7, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

She knows the players

names and everything…Meeka, Cappie, ’Wanna, Penny….and Diana of course.

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by Seth Pollack on Oct 7, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Try to get her to shout “offense” instead if you want her to grow up a Suns fan. :P

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by LatinD on Oct 7, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What a great pass for that three. Who was that? I can’t tell in my tiny window.

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by LatinD on Oct 7, 2009 9:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

and yea she tiny little tank

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by Malcolm Wells on Oct 7, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah, thanks. Kudos for her.

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by LatinD on Oct 7, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

She's tough

she’s also just a fantastic person and a natural leader…she’s got future coach written all over her

I love the way Meek plays the game. I just wish she wasn’t 5’3"

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by Seth Pollack on Oct 7, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

4Q, 600 seconds, down 7

Can Indy do it???

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by Malcolm Wells on Oct 7, 2009 9:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oreb % in qtr 3

Pho: 25%
Ind: 13%

If Phoenix can continue do alright on the glass, they will win this game

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by Q McCall on Oct 7, 2009 9:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

fun stat

Fever are 3-1 this postseason when trailing at the end of three quarters.

Merc are 3-0 when leading at the end of three.

by pilight on Oct 7, 2009 9:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

lol ty!

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by Malcolm Wells on Oct 7, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A classic...

something’s got to give statistic.

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by scotthoward42 on Oct 7, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Merc

are also 5-0 when leading at the end of the 4th Qtr in the post season. Fact.

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by Seth Pollack on Oct 7, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

January gone cold!

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by Malcolm Wells on Oct 7, 2009 9:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

TSB

She went into gimbal lock!

by pilight on Oct 7, 2009 9:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sick pass Penny Taylor....

Whew.

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by scotthoward42 on Oct 7, 2009 9:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

She can do anything

on the basketball floor…anything

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by Seth Pollack on Oct 7, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That has been more than apparent

Since I started watching these games in the last week.

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by scotthoward42 on Oct 7, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Her

defense has really picked up in the last few weeks too. When she first came back she was picking up fouls b/c she was too slow but she’s doing a great job staying in front of her (wo)man

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by Seth Pollack on Oct 7, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, that pause between the title and the comment was almost a bait. :)

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by LatinD on Oct 7, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

dunk?

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by Malcolm Wells on Oct 7, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

catch has had a number of bad passes tonight

she won’t be getting an Assist to TO trophy for tonight

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by Malcolm Wells on Oct 7, 2009 9:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So normally

Bonner would come in and close out the game….not seeing that happen tonight

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by Seth Pollack on Oct 7, 2009 9:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Merc need to take care of the ball, dammit.

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by LatinD on Oct 7, 2009 9:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

beautiful

The WNBA

Bringing Suns and Spurs fans together. World Peace up next.

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by Malcolm Wells on Oct 7, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, well. At this point I’m just rooting for the series to make 5 games.

And because I want Stan to have something to smile about. :P

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by LatinD on Oct 7, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Beautiful basketball

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by Q McCall on Oct 7, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Game 5 here we come

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by Malcolm Wells on Oct 7, 2009 9:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Easy there, turbo...

Whole lotta basketball yet to be played

by Mike Lisboa on Oct 7, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

was in response to a play

as if, Penny was saying…

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by Malcolm Wells on Oct 7, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I mean Tangela

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by Malcolm Wells on Oct 7, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can't say I agree with that three point attempt

Going for the dagger.

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by scotthoward42 on Oct 7, 2009 9:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Fever are turning

down wide open three’s and the Merc are packing it in

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by Seth Pollack on Oct 7, 2009 9:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

something about being 1 for 13 from 3....

will do that

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by Malcolm Wells on Oct 7, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I swear that

woman served me sloppy joes and cold french fries about 25 years ago

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by Seth Pollack on Oct 7, 2009 9:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pretty sure her twin brother...

was serving me up square burgers at competitive fast food prices.

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by scotthoward42 on Oct 7, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sry Q, I can't ask January about changing her name

she’s shooting cold as….

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by Malcolm Wells on Oct 7, 2009 9:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah...

this is what happens when you try to rename people after 8 games…

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by Q McCall on Oct 7, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Douglas

Katie Douglas is revisiting Game 3 of the 2004 Finals

by pilight on Oct 7, 2009 9:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

willingham hit head hard!

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by Malcolm Wells on Oct 7, 2009 9:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

just to correct that

Coe doesn’t have a bun…she’s got more of a mini-pony

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by Seth Pollack on Oct 7, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh know

I know! All season long she had the longer pony tail going and about two weeks ago she cut it to about shoulder legnth

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by Seth Pollack on Oct 7, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fever got the flu

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by Malcolm Wells on Oct 7, 2009 9:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dude, you're on a roll tonight....

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by Q McCall on Oct 7, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Phoenix doesn't need to just run clock...

But they need to be a bit more patient and not force shots…

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by Q McCall on Oct 7, 2009 9:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that

is exactly what they are doing….of course right now the Fever can’t buy a basket

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by Seth Pollack on Oct 7, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's over

See ya in Game 5.

by pilight on Oct 7, 2009 9:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for coming by

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by Q McCall on Oct 7, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Arrrrrgh!

Can’t watch Game 7 unless something miraculous happens re: work.

by Mike Lisboa on Oct 7, 2009 9:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Haha

And of course, I meant Game 5.

by Mike Lisboa on Oct 7, 2009 9:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I've seen worse

Sacramento scored two (yes, two) points in the 4th quarter of Game 4 in 2006.

by pilight on Oct 7, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tangela giving stan her 80%

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by Malcolm Wells on Oct 7, 2009 9:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Catch has been contained in the second half...

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by Q McCall on Oct 7, 2009 9:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

everything shut down when Fever cant hit open shots

would happen to any team, I think

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by Malcolm Wells on Oct 7, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So the age old question

Did the Mercury win this game or did the Fever lose it

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by Seth Pollack on Oct 7, 2009 9:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

no question

The Merc won it.

by pilight on Oct 7, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mercury won

Good defense second half.

That rover is tough to play against… and they rotated really well.

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by Q McCall on Oct 7, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've seen that

zone get totally picked apart by teams that can move the ball well…The Storm for example just tore though it by being patient and taking advantage of mismatches

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by Seth Pollack on Oct 7, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Very true...

and it seems like one of the big differences between this year and last is that they switch it up… they don’t rely on it quite as much… and as one tactic of many, it works well…

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by Q McCall on Oct 7, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's worked better then

it should against the Fever…it was also very effective against LA. Both teams don’t seem to move the ball well and execute on the offensive end

Like I always say, Offense Wins Championships

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by Seth Pollack on Oct 7, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

40 Personal fouls this game

 both – Fever couldnt hit, Merc did

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by Malcolm Wells on Oct 7, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fever: 1 FG in 4Q, rest FTs

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by Malcolm Wells on Oct 7, 2009 9:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Look forward to the recap!

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by Q McCall on Oct 7, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know

I just don’t think you can wait until your back is against the wall to play hard for a full game….I just can’t get behind that

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by Seth Pollack on Oct 7, 2009 9:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

but I am thrilled

that there will be another game in Phx!

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by Seth Pollack on Oct 7, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Later folks!

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by Q McCall on Oct 7, 2009 9:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Stock phrase #113: This series is now Phoenix’s to lose.

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